Talk:Shlisselburg

Picture

 * The Russian version of the article has a picture: ru:Изображение:Krepost Oreshek 2.jpg; I would move it to commons (and use it here) but I don't speak Russian, and the necessary author/source and license info is in Russian only. Assistance from a Russian speaker would be very appreciated. JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Which Northern War?
A sentence in this article reads:


 * "It obtained its current name, Shlisselburg, meaning Key-town, after being retaken by the Russian forces in the Northern War. "

Northern war points to a disambig page; there are two possible articles here that this article is referring to:


 * Northern Wars (1655-1660)
 * Great Northern War (1700-1721)

Sweden and Russia were involved in both, which one is being referred to?

Kevyn 11:03, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Peter the great renamed it during the Great Northern War.Mcpaul1998 (talk) 23:21, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Schlüsselburg
I have added "Schlüsselburg" to the introduction, as that name is widely used in English publications as well (see Google Books). Olessi 17:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Schlüsselburg is not merely the German name, but a name widely used in English texts. Based on Google Books results, "Schlüsselburg" has been used more often than "Shlisselburg" in English historiography. While I am not advocating moving the title to "Schlüsselburg", that name should certainly be mentioned in the introduction, as it is used as much as (if not more than) "Shlisselburg" in English. I also am curious about how my copyediting rendered the article "unstable". Olessi 20:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Shlisselburg Fortress
It would be nice to have a separate article on the fortress, it's quite notable.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This fortress is not nearly well-known enough in the English speaking community for all of it's importance in WW2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.113.132 (talk) 03:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


 * While disambiguating Nöteborg, I piped several links to Nöteborg Fortress. This currently points to Shlisselburg.  If a separate article is created for the fortress, the redirect should be re-pointed there. Nick Number (talk) 21:20, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I agree that there should be a separate article covering this fortress. It is mentioned in several articles under several different names ("Schlüsselburg", "Shlisselburg", "Oreshek", "Petrokrepost"). I had been there as a young man and knew it as "Petrokrepost" (Peter's Fort). I was having difficulty locating any English-language information, and my Russian-language is too rusty to understand the Russian version.MidwestHBA (talk) 14:43, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Incomplete history
Extremely odd that the history section ends two centuries ago – and in particular that there's no account of Schlüsselburg's important role in the Siege of Leningrad during WWII. Sca (talk) 14:38, 16 July 2015 (UTC)