Talk:Shoebill

Zelda reference
I have to admit I fail to see why a TikTok meme about the species is more notable than a videogame that has sold upwards of 3.5 million copies to the point of keeping the former and deleting the latter. I'm rusty at Wikipedia and I can try to find a reference, but shoebills are very obviously the inspiration for the Loftwings. It may be a generational thing, but I assure you that Skyward Sword is where a lot of Zelda fans first learned about the species. It's like how a lot of people would never never heard of echidnas if it wasn't for the Sonic the Hedgehog. SparkyLurkdragon (talk) 03:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Because more people have seen the TikTok videos of scary shoebills than they have of the Loftwings in Skyward Sword. That, and you'll need a WP:SOURCE that supports the claim that the Loftwings were inspired by shoebills, otherwise, it's original research or synthesis. Mr Fink (talk) 03:27, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair. Here's a source, straight from the Zelda art book Hyrule Historia, archived at Archive.org.
 * And, again, if a TikTok meme is relevant, so is a videogame in a really popular franchise. I don 't even like Skyward Sword that much, but it is where I first heard about the species, and I' m not alone. SparkyLurkdragon (talk) 06:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * We're not saying TikTok is more notable than Zelda - we're saying a fully qualified reference is required. You still haven't provided one. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * So, let me get this straight.
 * An art book with Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma himself overseeing edits which specifically says "Loftwings were modelled after shoebills" in black-and-white, is not enough to qualify as a reliable source/not original research? Then what would be? SparkyLurkdragon (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I found through Google Scholar a [//periodicos.ufsc.br/index.php/scientia/article/view/1980-4237.2014n15p61 2014 paper] in the journal Scientia Traductionis about video game localizations that mentions the design influence (la forma del pico del ave esté inspirada en el picozapato (Shoebill en inglés, balaeniceps rex en latín)). [//www.nintendoblast.com.br/2018/07/simbologia-em-legend-of-zelda.html Nintendo Blast] pretty much repeats (in Portugese) what The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Historia says; I didn't find anything about Blast on the video game sources guidelines. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Flaps
150 flaps per minute? 217.8.12.201 (talk) 22:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Context please. Is this in the article or are you proposing a change? Got a source? – Novem Linguae (talk) 01:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)