Talk:Shopska salad/Archive 1

Typo: salsd --> salad
Can somebody with write access search for 'salsd' and change it to 'salad'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexishuxley (talk • contribs) 17:51, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Article thread
Please, make sure you drop a line before moving a page. It might happen so that other editors disagree with such a move and it could cause quite the edit-war. Especially with edit comments like: "Real name". You basically have not changed the name, rather the spelling only. A quick google search in English shows:
 * 6,850 hits for Shopska salad
 * 567 hits for Šopska salad.
 * That just about raps it up on this topic. -- L a v e o l  T 15:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * To others: please, read the description of images carefully prior to removing info from captions. The info is accessible, only if you wish to look at it: Information |Description=Shopska salad. |Source=self-made |Date=July 2007 |Location=Bulgaria |Author=Ben Opp |Permission= |other_versions=. Plus, it'd be really nice if sourced sentences' meaning is not changed just like that with no explanation whatsoever.-- L a v e o l  T 21:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Bolgarian salade ?
Salade is derivated from Shopi people, before anyone want to write that it's Bolgarian read article Shopi people. Then ask yourself, is it Sopska salad or Bolgarian salade.

Shopi arent Bolgarians, so, its not Bolgarian. --94.140.88.117 (talk) 09:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Second : If Shopis from Bolgaria are credited or not, its still Shopi and not Bolgarian. Statement was without reliable source. (not some from Jordan Ivanov) --94.140.88.117 (talk) 09:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd appreciate it if you learnt how to spell, prior to posting comments like that. The proper name is Bulgarians and I have the feeling you're writing it wrong in purpose. Third-party sources refer to the dish as Bulgarian. Please, do not remove sourced content. Thank you. Shops (or Shopi) from Bulgaria self-identify as Bulgarians, hence - Shops (Shopi) = Bulgarians. Not liking something, does not justify such removals.-- L a v e o l  T 09:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * @Laveol Yes, gun to the chest, they identify as Bulgarians. They don't have any other choice
 * Pixius talk 19:17, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Shopska salad is not on PDO list for Bolgaria
I have just checked "Products with protected designation of origin" on DOOR list of Eurpoean Union. Shopska is not origin protected as Bolgarian, since it cant be.

That will be all. I will kindly ask Bolgarians not to act as some spam or will ask protection. --94.140.88.117 (talk) 10:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, look since it's become vandalism now - the source is a respectful academic work, not any national radio or something. If you have a trouble locating the reference, try learning the basics of Wikipedia before reverting. The source is at the very bottom of the text (you can access it by clicking on the number after the sentence you've been removing information from. And, please, stop calling me BOlgarian. I now know that you're doing it on purpose, so for the second time I kindly ask you to stop. The next time you write something like that I'll treat it as a personal attack. -- L a v e o l  T 15:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll wait a bit and re-add the sourced content. If you have any constructive objections, lay them down here, please. Mind you, playing games and going for personal attacks do not count as constructive actions. Thank you. -- L a v e o l  T 00:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Look - the talkpage is open. If you have any other arguments, post them here. If not, then please stop reverting. Blind reverts combined with no willingness to discuss, are considered disruptive.-- L a v e o l  T 19:40, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Once again, Bolgarian radio isn't appropriate and reliable source. --94.140.88.117 (talk) 20:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Since you're enable to find it yourself, although you know too well where it is, I'll post it here as well. The source is: Culinary cultures of Europe: identity, diversity and dialogue, Darra Goldstein, Kathrin Merkle, Fabio Parasecoli, Stephen Mennell, 2005, p.101. And you're going to ANI for continued harassment. -- L a v e o l  T 20:06, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and there's no need to revert every single of my edits. The other one was just a cosmetic one and you reverted it only cause you want to play around. That doesn't help, you know. -- L a v e o l  T 20:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Sopska salad is named by Shopi people, not Bolgarians. They live in broder area of all three states, Serbia, Macedonia, Bolgaria. Don't POW article. This is not VMRO. --94.140.88.117 (talk) 18:53, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

The Albanian name isn't quite right
I'm Albanian and I know for a fact that that's not how we call the salad exactly (Salat Shope), even though it's quite close. We actually call it "Sallata Shop" if definite, and "Sallatë Shop" if indefinite. I read the referred article and it doesn't seem to be by anyone who knows Albanian, so I'd urge you to consider changing it.

Fawkey (talk) 12:01, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive editing
Several Serbian IP-s, most probably Socks, are making disruptiev edits deleting sourced info. Please, stop this vandalism. 78.159.147.70 (talk) 19:45, 6 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.16.193.70 (talk)
 * I think, semi-protection against IP- vandalism must be required. 78.159.147.70 (talk) 03:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Hystory of the salad
That Salad was created by professional chefs from "Balkanturist" in 1956 at the restaurant "Chernomorets" in the then resort "Druzhba", now "Saint Konstantnin and Elena" near Varna, Bulgaria. For the first time the salad recipe appeared in 1956 in a "Book of the hostess" of P. Cholcheva and Al.Ruseva and it contained all the components of today Shopska except the cheese. In the following years, there were undergoing series of modifications to the recipe - in 1970 in the book "Recipe for cooking and confectionery" were given four options for Shopska salad - with onion and cheese; without onion and cheese; with roasted peppers and cheese; not sweet, but with chili pepper and cheese. In the early 1970s, roasted peppers and grated cheese were imposed as a mandatory components. Initially the salad was served only in restaurants of "Balkanturist" and later it became popular in the home kitchens in the country. It became a national culinary symbol in Bulgaria during the 1970s and 1980s. From Bulgaria the recipe spread during 1990s to the kitchens of neighboring Serbia and Macedonia. Because the ethnographic subgroup of the Shopi is divided among Bulgaria, Serbia and Macedonia, chefs in Macedonia and Serbia began later to argue, that it was traditional initially for their countries. It is widespread also in Romania under the name Bulgarian salad. Source: Socialist gourmet, Author: Albena Shkodrova, Publisher: Janet 45, Sofia, 2014, ISBN: 9786191860906, pp. 260-261. 78.159.147.70 (talk) 09:29, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * @78.159.147.70 Bogus statements. Shopska salad was known in Serbia way before 1970s Pixius talk 19:14, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

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