Talk:Shortfin mako shark

User:Urindar's edit
Hi, I just deleted a part of the behaviour section that was duplicated. By the way, the data was opposed to the part that remains, so its not clear to me if this shark can, in the end, jump six or nine meters, and its speed is 35 or 50 km/h. The two versions were nonconsistent...

--urindar 14:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

RECORDED SPEED: To say that the speed has been “recorded at 31mph” with “bursts of up to 47mph” doesn’t make sense. Not only that, I have yet to read anywhere that Makos have topped 30-35mph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.138.200 (talk) 05:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Marte's edit
I've reverted his edit because it deleted the taxobox and the links, but some of his edits at may be worth incorporating into the article. Please review. Mgm|(talk) 13:14, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

This kind of shark has a bladder. Other types don't. What's that called? How about a sentence or two?

Naming - Maori (1727) is unlikely
The article states that the word "Mako" comes from Maori and that it first appears in English in 1727. This is impossible as the first known spoken contact between Maori and Europeans was during Cook's voyage (1769). So either the etymology or the date is wrong. "Mango" is more common as the Maori word for shark, although it would be "Mako" to the southern tribes (they pronounce the northern "ng" as "k"). Other Polynesian languages seem to go for "Mano" or something similar, so I'm guessing the date is off. Perhaps it should be 1827? That would fit with the arrival of sealers in southern NZ, people who would have needed to both communicate with local Maori and be alert to sharks. --Rwestera 20:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC) " It may have originated in a dialectal variation as it is similar to the common words for shark in a number of Polynesian languages" Mako is not 'similar'to the common words for shark in polynesian languages, it is clearly a normal form everywhere the protopolynesian *ng has evoluted to [k], i.e. in the north marquesan dialects, in some maori dialects (like in Hangaroa > Akaroa). This being said I don't know from which island the word was actually borrowed.
 * The date, 1727, has now been taken out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.27.206 (talk) 14:39, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Makeover
How is "Mako" pronounced? Does it rhyme with "Whack-oh" or "Shake-oh"? This page suggests the former, but it's a guide to a Japanese animation and it's on Geocities, so it's not authoritative. Stick the answer in the article. -Ashley Pomeroy 18:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

It's pronounced like "may-ko". Watch Deep Blue Sea. -Alex 12.220.157.93 11:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC).

No, it's more like ma-ko, pretty much as it would read in Japanese (but look at the linked page on Maori pronouciation). I imagine some would pronounce it as you have written, but it's not correct. Yes this is right, like Japanese pronounciation, it is said ma-ko (mar-kor) not may-kau that is said frequently in NZ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:9A00:0:107:203:144:40:150 (talk) 03:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC) There's a discrepancy with the Shark article. There it states that makos can swim up to 48 km/h while the figure here is 35km/h. Please fix.

Disputed
The article says that Mako is from the Maori for 'blue lightning' (with no source citation), however this BBC article says that it is from the Maori for 'man eater'. I've added a 'disputed' template until we can clear this up. Cynical 11:31, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

New weight record?
Yahoo! lists an article about the capture of a 1,063-lb mako. Perhaps we need to update the article? PaladinWhite 01:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Weight issue
According to the florida museum of natural history (http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/gallery/descript/shortfinmako/shortfinmako.html) the biggest shortfin mako was around 505kg. The article states a massive 800kg! Prehaps a reference for this claim should be provided? Owz182 15:48 (GMT) 07 April 08

What do they eat?
Wat do they eat? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.57.240.217 (talk) 20:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

Picture is not a mako
I'm not sure what it is, but the shark pictured in this article is not a mako shark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.120.31.20 (talk) 20:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Correct, I changed it back, thanks! --Stefan talk 00:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

HELP
I am an AP Biology student who is currently taking this article under my wing in the hopes that it will eventually reach Featured Article status. GA status would be acceptable but I'm setting my sights on FA. I welcome and encourage all who visit to contribute/criticize, albeit constructively, as they see fit. If you see anything that you think should be changed than by all means let me know. I am currently working on this article in my User:Duckhunter92/Template/Sandbox, I invite you to join me. I am completely open to suggestions and thankful for any help that might come from the Wikipedia community.

My end goal, as noted earlier, is to nominate and pass this article to Featured Article standing in the coming months. While it will be a difficult road ahead, I hope those of you who took the time to read this will understand my undertaking and seek to help me expand and improve this article. Also, check out my user page to learn more about me or WikiProject AP Biology 2008 for my AP Biology Class Goals/Project information. Cheers!--Duckhunter92 (talk) 00:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Add the reference list per class assignment to this talk page --- not to the actual article itself. they are there as potential references for you!!!! Cut and past them over here. --JimmyButler (talk) 19:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Potential Resources
--Duckhunter92 (talk) 00:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) http://sharks-med.netfirms.com/med/mako.htm
 * 2) http://www.sdnhm.org/kids/sharks/shore-to-sea/mako.html
 * 3) http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/sharks/species/Mako.shtml
 * 4) http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/fishwatch/species/atl_shortfin_mako.htm
 * 5) http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/sharks/species/mako.html
 * 6) http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/sharks/research/mako.html
 * 7) http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/sharks/refpdfs/Caira%20et%20al%201997.pdf
 * 8) http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/sharks/refpdfs/Mollet%20et%20al%202000.pdf
 * 9) http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/sharks/newsletter/97/97overview.html
 * 10) http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/sharks/research/makofooha.html
 * 11) http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=ENV&recid=226343&q=Shortfin+mako&uid=793124504&setcookie=yes
 * 12) http://homepage.mac.com/mollet/Io/Mollet%20et%20al.%202002Sanzo.pdf
 * 13) http://www.publish.csiro.au/paper/MF05077.htm
 * 14) http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/abstract/208/12/2377
 * 15) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T6N-4FH5K27-2&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=8fd2d6d875576e186cfe0a5489a9571b
 * 16) http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/shark_profiles/i_oxyrinchus.htm
 * 17) http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Descript/ShortfinMako/Shortfinmako.html
 * 18) http://marinebio.org/species.asp?id=36
 * 19) http://animals.howstuffworks.com/fish/most-dangerous-shark1.htm
 * 20) http://www.australianmuseum.net.au/fishes/fishfacts/fish/ioxyrinchus.htm
 * 21) http://www.marinebiodiversity.ca/shark/english/mako.htm
 * 22) http://library.thinkquest.org/C0120120/text/content.php?c=mk&&l=en
 * 23) http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/ecology/ocean-mako.htm
 * 24) http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/sharktrust/mako.shtml
 * 25) http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=752
 * 26) http://dsc.discovery.com/sharks/shortfin-mako-shark.html
 * 27) http://www.marinebiodiversity.ca/shark/english/skull6.htm
 * 28) http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/fishing/news/story?page=f_enc_ShortfinMako
 * 29) http://www.shark.ch/Database/Search/species.html?sh_id=1027
 * 30) http://www.australian.museum/fishes/students/focus/oophag.htm
 * 31) http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:awH-aPH_z_AJ:www.sharktrust.org/do_download.asp%3Fdid%3D26338+shortfin+mako&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=47&gl=us
 * 32) http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aquarium/pages/makoshark.html
 * 33) http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/shark_profiles/i_paucus.htm
 * 34) http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/topics/p_warm_bodied.htm
 * 1) http://www.shark.ch/Database/Search/species.html?sh_id=1027
 * 2) http://www.australian.museum/fishes/students/focus/oophag.htm
 * 3) http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:awH-aPH_z_AJ:www.sharktrust.org/do_download.asp%3Fdid%3D26338+shortfin+mako&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=47&gl=us
 * 4) http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aquarium/pages/makoshark.html
 * 5) http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/shark_profiles/i_paucus.htm
 * 6) http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/topics/p_warm_bodied.htm

Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 03:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Elasmo research Google search

--Stefan talk 05:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

You couldn't squeeze out two more --- with the link provided by your supporters???? --JimmyButler (talk) 21:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I must have not saved the last time I entered information. Sorry about that. I will be more attentive next time. --Duckhunter92 (talk) 01:01, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Citation choice.
See me regarding your selection for a citation in your text. Are better yet ... go to the actual reference... click on the "home" to see who published your data and you will end up here. No doubt --- experts on sharks worthy of citing in wikipedia. --JimmyButler (talk) 17:34, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * :-) Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 01:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Behavior
Sentence concerning behavior is unreferenced and appears to be opinion. Statement is "The shortfin's aggressive behavior could be responsible for attacks on humans, but humans cause much more harm because the demand for the meat of this fish is so high". First statement concerns attacks on humans, needs reference for number of attacks and whether these were provoked. Second statement concerns human demand for the shark's meat. This needs a reference for how many sharks or pounds of meat are demanded. Recommend these two statements be separated from each other, as connecting them gives the appearance of a bias. Acadian65 (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Reproduction
Removed line that incorrectly stated that egg-eating by the unborn sharks is intrauterine cannibalism, it is not, it is oophagy. In addition added line "There is no evidence of sibling cannibalism as in .... ". 70.83.175.116 (talk) 23:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Image
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Fossil record
How about some information about the fossil record of the shortfin mako shark? There is already some info under the topic of the (rarer) longfin mako sharks. And shark teeth are usually quite common! Dr.Bastedo (talk) 06:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Minor Error
Under "Anatomy and appearance"

"Although both sexes grow at about the same rate, females are thought to have a longer life span, and generally grow larger and more robust. This species grows to an average length of 1.82–3.2 metres (5 ft 12 in ..." Check that last measurement! User:Gene Wirchenko  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.181.25.30 (talk) 05:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Slap them with cavitation bubbles?
I think that needs some explanation. Richiez (talk) 08:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

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slap them with cavitation bubles?
Not sure thats possible in the context its used here. Cavitation is a low pressure area created in a liquid, most often by fast movement, ie a pumps impeller boats propeller or a sharks tail (in this case) if it thrashes it to cause a large amount of thrust which, action and reaction being equal and opposite, would create a large backwash of water. So they may hit divers with a rush of water that contains bubbles from cavitation but the diver would not feel the cavitation bubbles besides the fact that it may cushion the hydraulic shock from the water and cause some slight short term visual interference.

sorry if Ive done this wrongly first timer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiny bites (talk • contribs) 21:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Since this claim has been disputed for over a decade without any supporting evidence being provided, I removed it. I initially did a search for any mention of this claim but couldn't find anything. However, upon further investigation, I did find two sources that mention Mako sharks slapping divers with cavitation bubbles.
 * One of them is apparently on Wikipedia's blacklist, and doesn't list any references, so I don't lend much credence to it.
 * However, the other source (http://sharkkeeper.com/shortfin-mako-shark-facts-and-features/) does at least cite a handful of references. That said, none of those references seem to mention this cavitation bubble thing. -- Foxbud (talk) 11:27, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Removed popular culture section
I've removed the Popular Culture section. It wasn't quite as bad as the xkcd's [wood], but it was getting close. Preserved below for reference: Wardog (talk) 14:34, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

In popular culture

 * The character Chum from Finding Nemo is a short-fin mako.
 * A mako shark appeared in Ernest Hemingway's novella, The Old Man and the Sea.
 * Three impossibly large short-fin mako sharks appear as the antagonists in the film Deep Blue Sea. Each one is approximately 23 feet (7 meters) in length and weighs around 8,000 pounds (3,600 kg), a size that no mako has ever come closer to attaining - even the Great White rarely approaches this size. Shown using animatronics and CGI, the three sharks are genetically engineered to be intelligent, and in one case, extremely large. They destroy the facility they are housed in and eat most of the scientists studying them, before they are eventually killed (each is killed as an homage to the death of a shark in the Jaws movies.) A 'tiger shark' is seen early in the film, but it is really a mako shark with fanciful stripes.
 * In the movie The Beach (film) a Mako Shark attacks Richard (DiCaprio), who eventually kills it with a hunting knife.
 * Mako is one of the protagonist in the 1986 animated TV series TigerSharks.
 * The Proprietor of the Mermaid Cafe in the manga series One Piece is a short fin mako shark mermaid.

Short fin mako shark
where does the name mako come from. Is it tribal? . Would a mako and great white cross paths and if they did who would win if they fought ? thanks!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fall23 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The word "Mako" is from the Maori language, itself Polynesian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.27.206 (talk) 13:36, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

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