Talk:Shortwave listening

ask for expansion of receiver section
I would like to express a request to expand the receiver section of this article. Many pieces of information on portables are left out. For this section, please refer to the Korean-language of 'shortwave listening'. Thank you. Finefir2001 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

South Korea
Since Korea has been divided into two states, shortwave listening in South Korea has never had a chance to activate itself. Shortwave or shortwave receivers were the symbol of North Korean spies or pro-North Korean activists, and there were some cases in which the South Korean government confiscated shortwave receivers. Until 1993, it used to be a criminal offence for people without a ham radio operator's licence to possess a shortwave radio or listen to shortwave broadcasts. At present time, shortwave listening is usually enjoyed by some people who have a strong interest in shortwave listening.

Japan
The 1973 oil crisis brought the root of 'ethusiastic' shortwave listening to Japan. Due to the oil crisis, many Japanese broadcasters had to cease midnight programmes, therefore, a lot of listeners there began to seek shortwave listening as an alternative activity. During the 1970s and the 1980s, a large number of Japanese people, especially teenage students, were excited about shortwave, and electronics companies like Sony were interested in introducing several shortwave receivers. Some shortwave listeners would gather QSL cards from various broadcasters all over the world. After the 1980s, ethusiasm for shortwave listening in Japan began to go down. These days, most Japanese listeners are composed of certain adults who are specially interested in shortwave listening. Some of them are nostalgic of that period.


 * User:Finefir2001, thanks for the additions, but some references are needed for this material. Perhaps if you point us to the Korean sources, we can obtain an English translation from which to rewrite the material in a more encyclopedic style. Also needed is a better section title ("Shortwave listening in other countries"), as WP articles are intended to reflect a world view of the subject whenever possible. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

>> I have tagged citations to the South Korea section. However, I could not do it on the Japan section, because I have no idea of the relevant sources; I would ask some Japanese users on English-language Wikipedia for help. Finefir2001 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 12:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * "I have tagged citations to the South Korea section. However, I could not do it on the Japan section, because I have no idea of the relevant sources" Sounds like what you wrote is your opinion or personal analysis. WP articles can't include opinion of the editor. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

title change of Shortwave listening in other countries
Since the main article is written according to shortwave listening activities in English-speaking countries (especially the USA), the title of the section 'shortwave listening in other countries' has been changed to 'shortwave listening outside English-speaking countries'. If you do not agree with this idea, you may bring back the original title. Finefir2001 (talk)

World War II Radio Heroes
In addition to being referenced to a single source, the material added has multiple issues; among them, it gives undue weight to a minor aspect of US-centric shortwave listening history, it fails to make its topic clear, and it is written in the style of an essay or book review rather than an encyclopedia. I suggest removal and move to the editor's Userspace. If the book "World War II Radio Heroes: Letters of Compassion by Lisa Spahr" meets WP:N, it might better be used to create a separate article about the book. The topic of POW monitoring during WWII may deserve a paragraph at most in the history section of this article. If so, there are a number of sources available here that could be used in addition to Ms. Spahr's book. - LuckyLouie (talk) 01:11, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Shortwave Radio in the Classroom (section)
The use of SW radio as a language learning tool has long since been superseded by the web, yet it is being presented as current. I imagine this is because the material added was lifted from a source more than 20 years old. Pasted amid a discussion of digital signal processing, it's not helpful or thoughtfully placed. However, I understand this is part of a class assignment, so I'll wait a bit to make needed repairs. - LuckyLouie (talk) 01:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it isn't made clear this technique is only being used in 3rd world countries (e.g. "Ears to Our World" example.) - LuckyLouie (talk) 12:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing this. I changed it to "The use of the Shortwave Radio in Third World Countries". If you have any other suggestions please let me know. I am also not sure the references/footnotes are correct and the format in which I am putting the information in. Thanks again for letting us work with your article for this project. Nicocorn20 (talk) 16:07, 14 April 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem, it's not my article as no one "owns" articles, but we sometimes "adopt" an article to improve and look after. So here's my advice. Revise the material you've added a bit:


 * Make a separate section right after "history". Call it "Shortwave listening as an educational tool" or something like that. Write an intro sentence that makes it clear how SW listening is being used as an educational tool and where (e.g. currently, in 3rd world countries). Then go on by describing the Ears to Our World program as an example. Add to this a quick summary of some advantages/disadvantages of SW listening in the classroom from your other source. There's no need to include every last bit of info from sources. The goal is quality and readability, not sheer bulk.
 * The Happy Station material might better fit in the History section (I think you can find more examples of unique relationships between listeners and SW stations).
 * And The North American Shortwave Association material could either be a new section about "SWL clubs", or it could be woven in to the existing "practices" section. Sources on short wave listening you might use to develop this stuff can be found here.
 * Compose a paragraph about "POW monitoring" (the correct term) using sources like the Radio Heroes book and the ones found here. Weave it into the "history" section where we discuss WWII.
 * Add reference footnotes as best you can and I'll help format them later.
 * LuckyLouie (talk) 17:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Some advice
Hi, I have been asked to take a look at this article and provide some advice on how to proceed further with this article. Here are a few suggestions to work on after a first look at the article:
 * The lead needs to comply with WP:LEAD in that it adequately summarises the article. I would suggest that three or four paragraphs would do here. It should be able to stand on its own and summarise the main points.
 * It needs a lot more references to meet our verifiability standards. The article should use a standard referencing system, reference templates are good for this.
 * I have given the structure of the article a bit of a workover to make it more logical and to help it to flow a bit better.
 * Some of the sections seem to be original research or a "how-to guide". The classroom section in particular are troublesome. They are disproportionately long in terms of the overall article and the relevance to the topic of the article. The classroom concept seems to be a relatively minor concept when compared to its other uses and the sections need to be reduced. The text also needs to be reworked so it is not a lift out of the JSTOR article and is in prose and not list format.
 * All of the bare links in the article need to be turned into references.

All in all, it needs some work. A couple of suggestions on how to improve the prose and structure: look at existing high quality articles at featured articles and good articles. Look at technology articles for inspiration. Any questions can be left here or on my talkpage and I hope this helps. Woody (talk) 17:29, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, this has passed as a Wikipedia Good Article
(This is "duplicated" here for when the review is no longer transcluded)

Congratulations, this has passed as a Wikipedia Good Article. Nice article! Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 11:15, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Reviewer

Current schedules, frequencies? Would like a few links
I would like to print out a list of shortwave stations broadcasting news etc in English. Here are 3 sites I found that appear to be currently updated. I might have added them to the article, but my search seems like original research, so I'm refraining:

http://www.short-wave.info/index.php?feature=instructions Apparently a search tool for a massive database

https://www.shortwaveschedule.com/index.php Apparently searches the same massive database; can set desired languages

http://www.primetimeshortwave.com/index.html Prime Time Shortwave is a listing of English shortwave broadcasts.

-- Oaklandguy (talk) 22:42, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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