Talk:Shoulder joint

Rotator Cuff?
Would the rotator cuff be integral in stabilizing the joint? Tyciol 21:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed, the rotator cuff is even called the "active ligaments" of the joint.
 * / Raven in Orbit (Talk | contribs) 19:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

This article appears incomplete compared to all other anatomy related articles i have seen, all the others refer to public domain Gray's anatomy text and pictures--203.206.86.174 02:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Table of movements
I've just added a table describing the movements in the joint. It is long and some might argue it should be moved to a separate page. However, as long as the article is a stub it makes sense to me to have it in the article. Personally, I'd prefer to see the section in question further developed in order to make the table redundant.

/ Raven in Orbit (Talk | contribs) 19:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * In the table of movements, it may be a good idea to explicitly indicate which angle is stated in the parentheses. Since the glenohumeral joint has three axes of movement and also three degrees of freedom, three angles are needed to describe the position of the joint. However, only one angle is stated for each table entry. To me, the lay reader, it is not apparent which angle is being indicated in the table. 176.199.172.94 (talk) 14:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * In addition to not knowing which axes the angles are referring to, I lack some other pieces of information to comprehend the table: How are the angles defined (where's the zero point)? What do the angles even indicate? The range in which movement is possible? (I.e. is flexion only possible in a range from 150° to 170°?) Or is it indicating the range of angles in which the table entry is valid? In that case, what about the remaining range? (I.e. what about flexion at below 150° and above 180°?) 176.199.172.94 (talk) 15:09, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Arthritis
Somebody might want to add a link to the Facebook topic of Shoulder arthritis.

Also, this topic itself needs to be expanded. Dr.Bastedo (talk) 17:01, 25 August 2015 (UTC)Dr.Bastedo

Humeral Retroversion
I find it odd that the term "humeral retroversion" turns up nothing at all, when I search for this topic on Wikipedia. I am interested in the viewpoint that the range of shoulder motion, particularly "retroversion," is very significantly different in modern humans than it was in Neanderthals, and that this difference prevented Neanderthals from overhand throwing, and possibly from effective use of bow and arrow technology. The research literature on this issue is written in language so technical that it is virtually uninformative to me. (See https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274902225_Humeral_torsion_and_throwing_proficiency_in_early_human_evolution.) Even though this is obviously a very good article, and despite the fact that I have a pretty decent grasp of medical terminology, I do not find it very helpful. Some of the animated diagrams in the current article are extremely good, and I have never seen anything like them in other sources. Would the editors active on this page please add discussion and imagery relevant to this feature of the human shoulder? A comparison with the Neanderthal shoulder would undoubtedly be interesting to many readers, and would be extremely interesting for me. It would also make a valuable addition to the page on Neanderthals. Janice Vian, Ph.D. (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2017 (UTC)