Talk:Shrek (franchise)/Archive 1

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Merger
Shrek 4 needs to be here. There is not enough concrete evidence of the film being made yet. Next to the comment of "we plan to make Shrek 4", there is nothing but speculation on the entire article. All relevant information needs to be kept here (which it appears it already is) and Shrek 4 needs to be redirected to its subsection. The third film isn't even out yet and people are trying to create a page for 4 and 5.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  20:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Shrek 4 is OK to be an independent article, Shrek the Third will soon be out, and an article for 4 will be out in a few months, even if it is merged.

Chinneeb 11:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's still crystal balling to say there WILL be another film. How do we know there will be one? Because a couple people say there will be? Have they started making it?   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  13:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's in pre-production. &#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;User:Kitia&#124;Kitia&#39;&#39;]] 21:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Pre-production does not equate to actual filming, or release of a film. Canceled Superman films, that's 20 years of directors, writers, actors, and the lot for films that ever made it to actual production. That was 50 million dollars worth of nothing, because the projects never got off the ground.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  22:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Hm... Bignole has a point. I think that it should be merged. I haven't seen Shrek the Third, but I think they've gone a bit far with three already. --King of Ty 18:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Support the merge. There is not enough information at this point to warrant an actual article, especially with no actual production yet.  Films, even with franchise potential, can still wind up in development hell.  Also, judging from the film article's page history, there has always been numerous instances of speculation and rumors added, which does not help. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:44, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support the merge. Since Shrek 4 is definite, it should be added as part of the story. -  GTAGeek123  talk  20:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support the merge. Shrek is a series with a number of related off-shoots that can be tied together into a single article. As each film is released, those items relevant to each specific film can be broken off into its own article.  See how Survivor (series handles the different seasons, for example. SpikeJones 03:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You know what else needs to be here? Puss in Boots: The Story of an Ogre Killer. I've added the merge tag to that page as well. SpikeJones 12:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

ChrisIzCali 08:01, 27 December 2007, into that 2008 ('08) baby! (UTC) Against: People deleting that The Thrills will have a song in Shrek Goes Fourth. (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.36.25.25 (talk)
 * Support the merger of Puss in Boots as well.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  12:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Against the merge since Antonio Banderas confimed it in an interview. Jay B. 21:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Against it is a different movie, it deserves a different page. It's like merging ww1 and ww2.
 * Support the merge. There isn't enough content to justify Shrek 4.  The content could easily be merged into this article. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 03:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Against the merge as i think all these up and coming shrek movies that have not much content should be put into the samne page. Shrek 4 and Puss in Boots: the story of an ogre killer should be put in another page. And when the movies are released or are due release, they then should have their own pages.Sdewey 22:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support the merge. I agree, at this point it is mostly unconfirmed, and subject to cancellation at a moments notice as Shrek the Third continues in theaters, depending on how much money it makes. Either way, at this point there isn't enough concrete evidence, or enough information regarding the movie, to constitute it having it's own article. I also support the merge of Puss in Boots: The Story of an Ogre Killer
 * Against Since it has been confirmed and is on IMDB EclipseSSD 19:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Against It has been confirmed therefor deserves its own page.
 * Against Shrek 4 is a film in itself and deserves its own page this page doesn't explain much about Shrek 4.
 * Support I think all Shrek films should be in an article called Shrek series.TammiMagee 14:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Against I agree its kind of in the same series, but until they state it involves such characters as Shrek, Donkey etc, then it can't really be 'part of the series'. Its a spin-off, until more information is released, I'd say its separate. — Movie Junkie 17:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Against It's another movie, there's nothing more to be said. Hpfan9374 06:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Support There's not gonna be a Shrek 5. If there is, it will suck. Shrek 4 is gonna wrap things up. user:Corndog778
 * Very Strong Against Shrek 4 is different to Shrek, in the same way that Shrek 1,2&3 have thjere own article. Thenthornthing 15:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Strong Against It's a future movie, not a rumor or speculation etc - it deserves an article of its own. Hpfan9374 08:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Very M@$%ERF#$@IN Agianst I'm sorry, but we don't need some people merging pages and deleting them because there is not enough "citations", just because you have the ability to delete and do other things, that doesn't mean sh!t, anyways let people know things, perhaps they are not all true but I think if there is a least one good citation, then there's enough for me, but i believe in free speech and respect other's opinions.

film titles
Heh heh.. just realised the Shrek films are numbered the same as the Blackadder series. Coincidence, or no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.169.150 (talk) 09:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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List of characters
I believe there should be an article listing all the characters in the Shrek films, since the films, especially Shrek 2 and Shrek the Third, feature many minor characters, such as Queen Lillian, Doris and Mabel the Ugly Stepsisters, and the Ogre Babies, that doen't have their own article due to only being minor characters, and I really think there should be some resource identifying them for people who haven't seen the films but may want to know who these characters are. 74.71.92.115 (talk) 00:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Shrek Or Treat?
I saw here before that there was going to be a halloween special in 2009.. what happened to it, why did it disappear? ~D3K_Dave 14:17 04/04/2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by D3K Dave (talk • contribs) 13:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There have been no official announcements regarding it, so as it only existed as a rumor without citation, it was removed. SpikeJones (talk) 13:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Seriously
Why dont they just get a TV series on Nickelodeon and stop all of the damn movies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.29.236.240 (talk) 02:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

italics
in the characters section, italics mean what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.95.130.172 (talk) 00:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Shrek the third?
Something is seriously wrong with this body of text:

"Further complicating matters is a little secret Fiona's been keeping, but the biggest problem is Prince Charming; he's gathered some new partners in crime and Far Far Away is going to go crazy.

There are times in which Fiona feels worried about her new life as Queen, but shortly gets aquipt with the tasks at hand. Her friends comes to visit and shower with gifts as they find out she is pregant, and when she confesses to Shrek, he freaks out. But realises he is going to need to stand up for himself and protect his new family in the near future. Everything worked out fine in the end, Shrek and Fiona are happy and with Donkey out of the way, they can now try and enjoy their lives, however will things change or are old faces appearing."

Contralya (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?
I think this article has possibly been the target of vandalism, particularly in the individual film sections. An example of this would be from Shrek 2: "They ahve a long and fun adventure to search the Fairy Godmother's cottage to get a love potion and turn Shrek into a human and Donkey into a noble steed! At the end of the movie, King Harold turns into........you'll just have to wait and see! Starring Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, Julie Andrews, Antonio Banderas, John Cleese, Rupert Everett and Jennifer Saunders". This is present in most, if not all, of the individual film articles, and it is my opinion that this is the work of vandals. One possible solution would be to go to WP:RPP and ask for protection, or just cleanup and remove all non-neutral statements and such. --EclipseSSD (talk) 19:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Donkey's Evil Twin
I don't suppose they'll add a scene where Shrek or anyone jumps a Shark... and oh look! In Puss in Boots Spin off movie banderas will play Puss and yes! his twin... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.23.91.242 (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Did anybody understand a word of that? --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 19:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

What now? I wasn't paying attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.202.37 (talk) 13:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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Redirections?
I've noticed that shrek 5 and the puss in boots spin off links all lead back to the same main page, whithout anything being actually mentioned in the article. would it be wise to put something for those to redirect to, or to mention it within the sequels section or just to remove the link?--203.196.42.179 (talk) 13:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Fairy Godmother?
It's been released that Farquaad is back... So couldn't they bring the fairy godmother back, too? In the alternate universe, she would still be fine....

Also, is Prince Charming returning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.234.245.85 (talk) 18:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Shrek critical responce
I have checked rotten tomatoes, site it would appear each shrek film on this artical has the wrong top critics rating. To whever or not this is a result in rotten tomatoes removing cream of the crop and replacing with top critics or something else needs to be looked at.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/shrek_the_third/?critic=creamcrop|title=Shrek%20the%20Third|publisher=

this thinks tyo shrek the thirds main page top critics, on the screen it canbeen seen a scetion for top critics and critics but not creem of the crop and at the side is th audiance oppion of the movie. The top critic score is indfinately diffrent from what i have checked of at least the shrek sequals.86.130.232.178 (talk) 13:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Possible Blackadder reference
Has anyone else noticed that each of the films shares its title with that of one of the Blackadder series. There's Blackadder II and Shrek 2, Blackadder the Third and Shrek the Third, then Shrek Goes Forth and Blackadder goes forth. The Shrek films like to make references to British pop culture so could this be intentional. --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 19:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Yh I noticed that as well!-- Imagine Wizard (talk • contribs • count ) Iway amway Imagineway Izardway. 21:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

No the coincidence isnt a homage, its plagiurism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.46.99 (talk) 05:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I picked up on that as well. Keep your eyes peeled for the next Shrek film - Shrek: The Cavalier Years 130.156.129.254 (talk) 18:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

More likely Shrek - Back and Forth.Colin marks (talk) 16:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

More info?
Is there any more information that someone can put under [Donkey's Christmas Spectacular]? I have fixed the redirect for the main article and allowed it to correctly point to its intended target, the "Donkey's Christmas Spectacular" section on the "Shrek" series page, but there isn't much info there. I was looking for more information on the "Shrek" series when I realized this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.8.247 (talk) 01:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Plots?
I think we should put the plots of each movie. - 203.87.129.111
 * Please note that new threads should generally be inserted at the bottom of Talk pages. Aside from very brief synopses, I don't see how this article would be served by duplicating content available at each movie's specific article. Doniago (talk) 15:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page has been moved. I didn't carry out the move; I'm just closing out the request. - GTBacchus(talk) 19:21, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Shrek (film series) → Shrek (franchise) –
 * With films, shorts, specials, spin-offs, games, musicals.. Shrek has became a franchise Carniolus (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This one will need discussion on the relevant talk page, I doubt that it would be uncontested. – ukexpat (talk) 21:51, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hyper link
I have just added a hyper link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 21:35, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Indoor Attraction- London
An indoor walkthough attraction is being built in London by Merlin Entertainment (along similar lines, and in the same building as, their Dungeons attractions) http://www.shreksadventure.com/ http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/feb/25/shrek-theme-park-open-in-london (note the Theme Park description is wrong) http://forum.towerstimes.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=38085 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.195.129 (talk) 17:04, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There is already something written in the Attractions section. Please feel free to add or change the information if you think it is needed.--Carniolus (talk) 19:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Please come back, Mike!
I've heard some rumors saying Mike Myers won't come back for Shrek 5. I hope those rumors aren't true, because Mike Myers is one of my favorite actors, and i want him to do more movies. I've also heard that Mike is retired from acting and paints portraits of Colonel Sanders. I want him to come out of retirement and make one more movie (that movie, of course, being Shrek 5.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77A0:90:C80E:69F:80F8:A735 (talk) 17:59, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Dubbing Shrek
I am the founder of Resulam, In French Ressurection des Langues Maternelles, www.resulam.com, a website for learning Minority Languages in the World. We want to translate Shrek in many african languages, I even already have the script done for one Cameroonian language. But the Question now is: How do we get the permission to legally dub this movie? What is the process ? Thanks again, and feel free to contact us at: contact@resulam.com

Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchamnarodrigue (talk • contribs) 14:43, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You could ask for advice at Reference desk/Entertainment or on another question & answer site, but what you really need to do is contact a lawyer. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't think The Shrek Show is real if there's no caps on Netflix and DreamWorks.
Seriously, is this the same person who infected FANDOM's Nickipedia thinking there's a Nicktoons TV show that's for adults with a TV-MA? Someone needs to consider locking this and trying to add warnings, notices, punishments or some other penalty to these users who are pretty much clueless kids, or adults, I guess. We don't take fake information. CARS FOR ME (talk) 21:36, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what goes on at Wikia, sorry. But you're free to remove anything that is unsourced, especially if you think it may be a hoax.  There were no citations to verify its existence, so I removed The Shrek Show.  It can come back if someone finds a source for this, of course.  If you think someone is adding hoaxes, you can follow the instructions at Vandalism.  Or, if that seems too complicated, you could complain here, and I'll probably see it – but maybe not. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:16, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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Primary genre across the franchise
Per WP:FILMLEAD, the primary genre classification should be listed in the opening of each Shrek film, not a string of genres that causes a WP:SEAOFBLUE concern. I went to the three common sources we use for genre, and here's what they had to say:
 * {| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"

! Film !! AFI !! BFI !! AllMovie It is clear that "comedy" is the one genre that 2 of the 3 sources support for each film (in some cases, it's all 3 sources). The articles will be updated to reflect this. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Shrek || Comedy (link) || Comedy, Animation (link) || Children's/Family (link)
 * Shrek 2 || Comedy (link) || Comedy, Animation (link) || Children's/Family, Comedy, Fantasy (link)
 * Shrek the Third || Comedy (link) || None listed (link) || Children's/Family, Comedy, Fantasy (link)
 * Shrek Forever After || Comedy (link) || Comedy, Animation (link) || Children's/Family, Comedy, Fantasy (link)
 * }
 * Shrek the Third || Comedy (link) || None listed (link) || Children's/Family, Comedy, Fantasy (link)
 * Shrek Forever After || Comedy (link) || Comedy, Animation (link) || Children's/Family, Comedy, Fantasy (link)
 * }
 * }

Shrek 5 might have been cancelled (again)
Remember how, before Shrek 4 even came out, when they said that there was going to be a Shrek 5, but they cancelled that movie (Shrek 5) in 2009, only to have it be un-cancelled a few years later? Well, I think Shrek 5 might've been cancelled again. Here are my reasons: 1. Shrek 5 was supposed to come out in 2019 or 2020, but they haven't started animating it yet (it takes 4-5 years to make an animated movie, not 1-2). 2. Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, and Cameron Diaz have all mostly stopped making movies since the release of Shrek 4 (that was actually Mike's last movie as an actor). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:B420:8040:E8F6:68DA:4AD2:13BB (talk) 22:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Update: Mike Myers is going to be on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon tonight. I wonder if he's going to talk about Shrek 5. Maybe he's going to say whether or not they cancelled Shrek 5. Update #2: I watched the Tonight Show a few days ago, and Mike didn't talk about Shrek. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:B420:8040:81F7:6065:3091:3034 (talk) 20:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC) Shrek 5 might be a secret project that they have been working on and Mike Myers is still acting and Eddie Murphy talked about the movie witch means hes back Joseph.ludwig — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph.ludwig (talk • contribs) 15:45, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

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Shrek 5 info from Screen Rant
I recently added info from Screen Rant in this edit regarding the fifth film still being in production and expected to release in 2022. It was reverted, and probably with good reason. When I first read the article, it seemed like the author had inside information. However, a closer look reveals that may not be the case:

This actually makes it seem like pure speculation on the author's part as opposed to having some kind of direct confirmation from Dreamworks. So in light of this discovery, I agree that ' revert was the right move for now until we have a better source. --GoneIn60 (talk) 17:01, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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