Talk:Shu Qi

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''Shu Qi is widely considered to be one of the most beautiful women in the world. Because her name is transliterated in so many ways, it is hard to get a firm estimate of the number of fan Web sites devoted to her, though a Google search for just one of her name variants (Hsu Chi) returns 183,000 fan pages, mostly filled with photographs of her. A good example of the kind of reaction she provokes: when she first appeared on screen in the film "Viva Erotica" (which, despite its title, is an R-rated comedy, not a porn film), audiences (the majority of whom had never seen her before) were reported to have let out collective gasps of astonishment, often followed by a stunned silence.''

This seems way too thick...first off, Google returns 333,000 results now for her name (Hsu Chi). Second, 333,000 results may seem a lot, but compared to other actresses (Kelly Chen for example, who has 1,240,000 hits) it isn't that many. And last of all, how about evidence to back up that stunned silence event?--64.231.223.72 03:50, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * I've removed this paragraph. I personally think she's gorgeous, but this is too much POV. Mandel 20:35, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

Although she's DEFINATELY one of the most beautiful women in the world (along with Monica Bellucci, Maria Thayer, Ayumi Hamasaki, Sophia Loren, Ann-Margret and Carol Lynley) that's an awkward sentence.

Photo
Can anyone get a decent photo of her up here?

Porn or not Porn
she became a model for nude girls magazines and softcore movie shorts, but she never worked for porn entertainment

The phrase 'porn entertainment' is a bit awkward. In any case either doing softcore IS porn or it isn't. According to the definition on wiki it is. If it isn't then we need to remove Shu Qi from the porn category. If it is, then this sentence is inaccurate. Tweisbach (talk) 13:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we should remove the "but she never" part of the sentence unless citable sources are found. Calling it porn or not sounds like a categorization made to defend her reputation, it does not change what she did and did not do in her life.  In some countries, in some eras, the "hardcore" sexuality was a different industry than "softcore".  In other places and times it was the same industry, just a different entertainment product.  I'm not sure what the difference means in terms of covering her life as we do here.  If she did softcore adult entertainment that's what she did, and the rest is just commentary.  Wikidemo (talk) 07:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * iam big fan@ 42.106.205.188 (talk) 18:06, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

She has appeared fully naked on film and in still photos - some might define this as pornography. I suspect the line ("never worked for porn entertainment'') is intended to mean that she has never had unsimulated sex in front of a camera; if this is the case, perhaps it should be phrased as such, to avoid any ambiguity. AuntFlo (talk) 07:05, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * She has appeared on still photos fully naked showing pubic hairs. 161.185.151.218 (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

So has Kate Moss: http://theworldsbestever.com/2008/01/31/kate-moss-thursdays-53 (NSFW) Is KM a porn star? AuntFlo (talk) 05:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Are her films pornographic? The best way to answer this question is the Potter Stewart test. Hence, removed from Category:Female pornographic film actors. GregorB (talk) 19:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Quote from article: "Born in Sindian City, Taipei County, the young Shu Qi moved to Hong Kong at the age of 17 where she became a model for hardcore adult magazines, appearing on the cover of Penthouse Hong Kong for February 1995, as well as some softcore movie shorts. She is the first Chinese porn idol to have crossed into cinema. She eventually came under the management of Hong Kong producer Manfred Wong, who signed her on to several softcore Hong Kong films such as Sex & Zen II."

1) She indeed appeared in penthouse HK in 1995, but penthouse HK is NOT an hardcore adult magazine, it just can't be, because it's HK where hardcore is illegal. Also, if you watch these picture (which i did), you'll be able to confirm that this is nude modeling. 2) she did appear in few erotic movies (en_US: "softporn") and also appeared naked in movies which are not erotic movies at all, but in all cases, i don't think you can call her a porn actress, even less a "porn idol", or you have to list as "porn idol", brad pitt, jackie chan, demi moore, sharon stone, etc... the list is long... 3) what does "softcore movie shorts" mean? And what movie are those? 4) If she's born in 1976 she was 19 at penthouse cover time, i don't know any other material from HK from this time. Where are the sources? (I only know a movie (not an erotic movie) where she appeared naked before, and that was in taiwan (she was 16).)

The idea that she is a former porn actress is rather IMHO a fantasy.

I think it should be rephrased as:

"Born in Sindian City, Taipei County, the young Shu Qi moved to Hong Kong at the age of 17. She appeared on the cover of Penthouse Hong Kong for February 1995 issue. She eventually came under the management of Hong Kong producer Manfred Wong, who signed her on to several softcore Hong Kong films such as Sex & Zen II in 1996." 88.175.74.22 (talk) 10:20, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Years active
She was active in 1992 (at 16, if her bithdate is correct) in taiwan. The movie is called 灵与欲 (Unexpected Challenges). It's a category 3 drama. Source: http://dianying.com/en/title/lyy1992 (en) http://dianying.com/jt/title/lyy1992 (zh) They say the subject is sex, but i've watched that movie, it's more a familly drama with very few erotic scenes. Plot: She's dating the son, and falls in love with the father, or something like that. Anyway, that's 1992 according to dianying.com 88.175.74.22 (talk) 09:51, 20 February 2010 (UTC) This movie is also listed at her talent agencies' site : http://www.richnfamoushk.com 88.175.74.22 (talk) 10:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC) This wikipedia page says the movie was made in 1995, but the following two sources credit 2000 as production year: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1126533/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 https://mubi.com/films/unexpected-challenges Antonio Napoleone (talk) 05:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

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Born in 1974, not in 1976?
According to this interview, she was born in 1974. These are her own words. It would put the beginning of her career in a new and less spectacular light, if she has started as an adult and not as a teenager. --Edelseider (talk) 07:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)