Talk:Sid Gillman

West Coast Offense
Not to be confused with Bill Walsh's Cincinnati offense. Confusion created after interview with Bernie Kosar who referred to Air Coryell offense as "West Coast". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vytal (talk • contribs)


 * That may or may not be true, but we currently have a reliable source that confirms what is in the article. If you have a reliable source that says differently, we may be able to work that it, but the info you removed was referenced and the reference confirms the statement you removed... --Jayron32. talk . contribs  17:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The source is incorrect. Check out http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/dr_z/news/1999/10/28/inside_football/ which is reference #4 in the article which is contradicts reference #3. Zimmerman's article is correct, the AP obituary is incorrect. The first reference also backs this up. Vytal (talk) 18:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

There should be an expanded section on Gillman's offensive influence. His offense did become what is now known as "Air Coryell" as played by the late '70s early '80s San Diego Chargers under Don Coryell, the early '90s Dallas Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson and Norv Turner, the current Niners & Chargers, the "Greatest Show on Turf" Rams and other teams coordinated by Turner, Ernie Zampese, Mike Martz and their disciples. Gillman's offensive influence in today's league would be second only to Bill Walsh's.

Vytal (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The West Coast offense article does do a good job of distinguishing between the Walsh and Gillman systems, and has some good sources as well... You may want to dig through some of those... --Jayron32. talk . contribs 18:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Mike Martz
Mike Martz should be under Dick Vermeil in the Gillman coaching tree, and credited with a Super Bowl appearance. Antimatter33 (talk) 04:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Stats
His Stats are wrong, in Season 1971 he had won 4 games and lost 6 games, you can see it at http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/TeamCapsules/San_Diego.pdf The stats above are also wrong, because the total statistic with 87-57-6 is correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by FettelPaxton (talk • contribs) 20:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)