Talk:Siege of Fort Stanwix

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Revision to Introduction
Introduction has been revised. Some points needed to be corrected (e.g., the role of Joseph Brant) and other points needed clarification (e.g., the importance of Fort Stanwix). Added Herkimer's rank.

Joseph Brant was present at the Siege of Fort Stanwix but did not lead Britain's indigenous allies. The Seneca warriors Sayenqueraghta and Cornplanter were elected war chiefs when the Iroquois agreed to abandon their neutrality at a council a few weeks before the siege. According to Barbara Graymont, author of The Iroquois in the American Revolution, Brant "had no part in recruiting any warriors save his own large band."

The raid led by Marinus Willett does not appear to have inflicted significant casualties so "killing some Seneca" has been deleted. Sources that mention casualties generally refer to only "two sick Indians" being killed. Griffin&#39;s Sword (talk) 19:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Revision to Forces assemble
This section had a few errors and omissions. The Siege of Fort Stanwix predates the formation of Butler’s Rangers. John Butler was at the siege but led rangers from the British Indian Department. The attack on the Lower Landing was commanded by Lt Henry Bird of the 8th Regiment. Brant was present but was not in charge. Replaced numbers for St. Leger’s forces from Pancake (1977) with the more accurate and detailed numbers provided by Watt and Morrison (2003). Described the expedition's route from Oswego to Fort Stanwix. Griffin&#39;s Sword (talk) 17:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Revision to Siege begins
While most sources report that St. Leger paraded his forces on the 3rd it would not have been a very impressive or intimidating display since most of the Kings Royal Regiment of New York were engaged in clearing Wood Creek and the Oneida Carry, and most of St. Leger's indigenous allies had not yet arrived. Created a new section called "Siege continues" and moved the map there as it shows the position of St. Leger's forces later in the siege. Will add additional information later. Griffin&#39;s Sword (talk) 22:27, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Oriskany and Siege continues
As originally written the section on the Battle of Oriskany made it seem as if Herkimer's forces and St. Leger's forces suffered an equal number of casualties. According to Watt (2002), 380 Tryon County militia were killed and 30 taken prisoner, while St. Leger's indigenous allies had 65 killed or wounded. Some historical writers also insist that Oriskany was an American victory despite the horrendous casualties and the failure to relieve the siege. Additional information about the siege following Oriskany has been added. Griffin&#39;s Sword (talk) 17:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)