Talk:Siege of Lal Masjid

Cleric is dead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6288704.stm I'll let someone who's been working on the page add it. Akubhai 14:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Casualties
Casualties are a big problem in this article. Some casualty numbers are a few days old when the numbers were still coming in and some are up to date and some are speculation and thus all casualty numbers differ from each other. And these numbers are spread all over the article. It makes it very confusing for the reader to understand how many people got killed. So we need to fix all this. Mercenary2k 16:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


 * has a difinitive total of casualties been given yet? Sue Wallace 22:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


 * article is looking much better now well done Mercenary2k Sue Wallace 00:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Links with Al Qaida
This is to point out that any religious militancy doesn't necessarily got any relationship with Al Qaida as quoted in the Information Box at the top right corner of the page. Thus, I think it leads to dispute of neutrality of the facts. Further, not always European media reports are neutral for describing events and facts about Muslim countries. Muhammad Shoaib 08:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes but ISI found letters inside the mosque stating that the Red Mosque uprising was directed by Al Qaeda terrorits Zawahiri and Bin Laden and furthermore 18-20 Al Qaeda terrorists from Egypt, Central Asia went to the mosque to train the students and fought alongside the lal masjid students. And thus Al Qaeda is part of the battlebox. Mercenary2k 19:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

So Lal Masjid were so foul,they left AL-Qadea letters so that ISI would discover them later.Anyway there is such report of ISI going in to do the search operation after the operation.Nor there is any other Netural source saying the same thing.Nor Pakistani media have sad said anything about that.My experiences with "Time" are already bitter they make hell of noting.When a Pakistani aircraft was shoot down in over Pakistan they made the mess of everything.Ordinary soldiers were described as "Commando" so it's no problem for them to make People from NWFP as foreigns and belonging to Al-Qaida. If there is Iota of treuth in all this then any Government minister would have spoken that out.User talk:Yousaf465

It's also reported that that one of the Person who has been identified as foreign was actually from Balochistan.User talk:Yousaf465


 * The references I have cited state they found egyptians, uzbek and central asians. If you can find a reference which disproves that then that fine. This is an encyclopedia and this should not be used as an avenue of showing of our political opinions. Find me a refernence that states that no foreigners were found and I will gladly approve you adding that in into the aritlce Mercenary2k

Basically all references will say what Govt had lied about. Hence they could be even had contact with OBL, what we need is some Govt offical saying it and then some Newspaper quoting him. That is the fun of wikipedia. --- A. L. M. 08:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The government will not admit that there were not any foreigners in the Masjid hence on the governments part it is merely an allegation. Merely repeating a lie enough times does not make it proof. :) Shehzadashiq 10:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? The Government already reported that they found bodies of 10 foreigners and are going through the rest. Once the final verdict is in, I am gonna add that into the article whether you like it or not. Mercenary2k 17:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

And uzbkes turn out to be a man from ATTAock the Base camp of SSG.read http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/07/070716_shahid_usman_father_zs.shtml. User talk:Yousaf465

GA Review
1. Well written?: Pass
 * Although the prose could benefit from a copyedit before going for A-Class or FA-Class, it is definitely good enough for GA-Status.

2. Factually accurate?: Pass
 * Is very thoroughly cited throughout. Good work on this criterion!

3. Broad in coverage?: Pass
 * Coverage is extremely broad & quite comprehensive. No objections here.

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass
 * No evidence of bias or advocacy. (just as a side-note, I'd be interested to see whether there were any governments that condemned Pakistan's response to the militants)

5. Article stability? Pass
 * No evidence of recent edit-warring on this article. Although this has been an issue in the past, I get the feeling that it has now subsided.

6. Images?: Pass
 * Those images that are within the article are appropriately tagged with copyright status, and are well-used.

Congratulations. This article has passed GA! Cheers! Cam (Chat) 17:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I don't think there were any governments that condemned the attack on the mosque, I'll try to find one but I highly doubt it. --→ Ãlways Ãhëad (talk) 18:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * go ahead with the copyedits this is a future FA-- TheFE ARgod (Ч) 12:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it has potential, but I am not sure if I will be on wikipedia over the summer, so if you don't see any changes in the next 2 weeks or if you don't hear from me, than its likely that I won't respond until September. Feel free to work on it. (Also I keep getting annoyed that they delete the images I put on even though I did my best to find license-free pictures) --→ Ãlways Ãhëad (talk) 01:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Grammar
Dont know how the prose part passed (although there is a caveat above), but i just edited 2 parts with some copy edits. The rest of the article may need to reviewed in this department. Doesn't seem to be poor in a general sense, just Desi English, which may or may not be most legible to other speakers of English.Lihaas (talk) 23:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Taliban involvement in siege
Can somebody explain the mention of Taliban under the belligerents in infobox? I cannot find any evidence that states that Taliban were involved in the siege. The clerics were pro-taliban and that, I believe, does not mean that they were Tabliban themselves.180.178.149.36 (talk) 04:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC) - —  Hamza  [ talk ]  04:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Troop Strength
Why does it say 60000 under Pakistani Army Strength, for something that is not an large scale multi divisional operation? 141.70.3.106 (talk) 05:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Mass Anon Blanking
Some IP users have been blanking sections of this article. Is this part of some decision I'm not aware of? I'm assuming that these edits should be reverted, and the user page should get a Uw-delete. However, my latest reversions have been flagged as "non-autoconfirmed user making rapid reversions." I'm pretty sure that an anon IP user is less credible than an un-autoconfirmed user with quite a few edits that have been accepted as constructive, but I could be wrong. Could anyone shed some light on this so I don't feel like I'm doing something wrong here? Either way, I'm going to go confirm my account now. WikiSpamIsFun (talk) 06:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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