Talk:Siege of Prosopitis

This Artickle is made by The Honorable Kermanshahi.

Not a bad job, I'm looking over it and I will make any edits I find. Are you styled "honourable" or "right honourable." LOL.--Arsenous Commodore 18:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Edits
I added some of the commanders to the warbox, including the the Egyptian and Libyan ones. Simplified and strengthened the warbox. Unfortunately for now though, the only sources for this article are other related sourced Wiki articles. I hope some other external sources are found.--Arsenous Commodore 18:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

well thank you for improving the artickle. The Honorable Kermanshahi 18:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Strength Figures
According to Ctesias, the Persians numbered some 200,000 men for the operation, alongside 300 ships. No doubt the troop figure of Ctesias is exaggerated. However, it appears it is the only source we have currently. Using the chiliarch and myriarch theory developed by C. Hignett would imply that Greek historians such as Ctesias would have multiplied 10x any Persian strength figure, if it were to have come from Persian archive sources. And Ctesias was known to use Persian sources. The only problem is this, would Persian (which by all accounts) was desperate to keep Egypt only arrive with 20,000[0] men for the objective. That is 20,000 only. On the other hand we can estimate that since 60,000 would be the regular size of the force commanded by a field marshal (coincidentally Megabyzus' job) the figure does probably seem most prudent for now. However, the naval count of Ctesias would probably be more authentic and likely. Anyone agree if I change it to 300.--Arsenous Commodore 18:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Redirect proposal
I'm trying to improve the depth of coverage for the Greco-Persian wars across all articles, and get all of them up to at least Good Article status. However, this article (as with others) is problematic, for one main reason: the ancient sources don't have much to say about it (as evidenced by the stub nature of this article). The article can never be satisfactorily expanded, because there's nothing else to say, and no other details in the ancient sources.

Thus, I don't think it really needs a separate article.

I think that the events at Prosoptis in 454 BC can be adequately covered at Wars of the Delian League, without needing a separate article. I suggest leaving this page as a redirect to the above article, and moving any content which is not already covered there, to Wars of the Delian League. The Greco-Persian Wars navigation box would still have "Prosoptis" in it, but now directing to the appropriate subsection of the Wars of the Delian League article. This is the approach I have used for some other battles which are clearly not going to have a full article written about them.

Ultimately, if the consensus is that this deserves its own article, then I will not contest that. Having checked briefly, it appears that are probably not many editors with a vested interest in this article. No-one has made a significant contribution to this article since May 2008, and they are now banned. So, I will wait one week for any opinions, and then act as described above. MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 21:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirected as above! MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 21:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)