Talk:Siege of Pyongyang (1593)

Sources of Japanese strength?
Where did the 43,000 come from? it appears that the Japanese mostly had just their first division in the city which was made up of roughly 18000-19000 men. even if you account for some potential Korean collaborator that could not possibly put the number to much more 20,000

East end attack?
I have recently edit in a version of the battle mostly based on the accounts of letters written by Song YingChang both private and public "經略復國要編"(and in those letters, it appears most likely that he was NOT at the battle but stay a bit behind)

I will try to be more specific with the reference, but right now my main question is where did the original content arrived from? since all the Ming account suggested that they started at the West end and left the east end open, because the East end of PyongYang bordered closely to DaTung river and was ill suited to station a army there.

Great general cannon?
I have a source that clearly states the Great Genearl did not arrive at PyongYang, I'll post it a bit later but it was part of Song YingChang's letters and that does seem to be more reliable than anyone else when it comes to Ming's stuff (since he was the chief organizer)

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It is in Song's letter to Li RuSong on 1/27

"但聞彼時大將軍神器尚未運至軍前"

"I have heard that the great general cannon did not arrive at the frontlines (during the siege of Pyongyang)"

(RollingWave (talk) 03:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC))

Recent edit
In my latest edit, mostly focused on putting in the source and reference, so far I have put in the reference from the offical Ming history in the biography of Li Ru Song, since it is most easily found online (it's in Wikisource), I will put in the parts from the annals of Seonjo a little later on. the two story agree quiet a bit so I don't think we should have much problem here.

(RollingWave (talk) 06:49, 31 May 2010 (UTC))

Also I did put in the part on the warrior monks, which was not in the history of the Ming but was in Seonjo and there are pretty convincing academic researches done on that. So I left it in.

(RollingWave (talk) 03:40, 4 June 2010 (UTC))

I have put in direct references from Song YingChang's letters on several areas, and also edited the side bar to better reflect the content change. as well as adding in few more notable figures who were present.

I could use a little help in a more clearly referenced casualty on the Japanese and Korean sides though. (i'm looking but havn't came up with anything full yet)

(RollingWave (talk) 02:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC))

For Japanese casualties
I saw someone just delete the Japanese casualties in many articles(Probably 5 or 6 articles). It seems someone wants to hide the Japanese casualties. I think should not just delete the important data based on reason non-reference because the Korean casualties are also non-reference. Why just delete the Japanese casualties to unknown? If delete the casualties, should fairly delete both two sides. Both sides are non-reference data. But I hope not delete the casualties of either side. I think can just add a citation needed and wait others add reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miracle dream (talk • contribs) 03:43, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


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