Talk:Siegfried (opera)

Marvel Comics
FYI I don't know how to incorporate this into the article, but in Thor (Marvel Comics) a Marvel Comics wrote a short series based loosely on this and the Volsunga in between issues #292-300.MPA 23:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MPA (talk • contribs)

Infobox
"In deepest humility I dedicate herewith" to your majesties of this article my humble offering, "I make bold to add this most humble request": may your majesties "deign to dignify the present modest labor with a gracious acceptance", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Quite a few years off the mark there - to what Bach says, Wagner replies "this fast-growing tendency to chain men to machine[-readable data] and deprive them of all joy in their efforts--the plan will lead to cheap men and cheap products. I set my face against it and plead for the dignity and health of the open air, and the olden time". Nikkimaria (talk) 00:53, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Wrong era ;) - It's 2013 now, I have joy in the effort of "awakening", showing more open air, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Ugly and futile; proving, as Nikkimaria shows, that as often, Wagner had it right well ahead of his time. Why, I ponder, should anyone waste their time scattering this sort of dung across assorted article talk-pages, when they could be doing something constructive? I join the plea for dignity and (mental) health.--Smerus (talk) 14:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You belie the definition of ponder and frankly have exhausted a significant measure of good faith! I've too long observed this debate, seeing no reason to comment more compelling than speaking to a wall; a measure I do not fancy. Because you have shown yourself bankrupt, I would not normally withhold my two cent's when it could relieve the shame you must feel as a vagrant. But you will remain destitute before I extend charity; until you apologize to Gerda Arendt, one of the kindest wikipedians I have ever known! Only then will I describe to you the verb tense of ponder, and the important nuance of its meaning. Please pardon my candor if I've wrongfully identified you as a discourteous malcontent when in fact you are actually ignorant. I feel nearly certain however that you are not ignorant, choosing not to treat you as if you were. :) John Cline (talk) 10:00, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Only just seen this as my friend Gerda has just pointed it out to me. Hope you have lightened up a bit by now. Best, --Smerus (talk) 20:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Spelling of "ring"
The initial letter of the word "ring" should not be capitalized, unless it is written as part of a title as in "The Ring of the Nibelung". I have replaced several incorrect "Ring"s with more correct "ring"s in the synopsis. Goblinshark17 (talk) 07:16, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * "Ring" should be capitalized. Why do you think it should not be?73.220.34.167 (talk) 03:56, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Infobox (again)
Infoboxes should be added after discussion on talkpage. No discussion took place here. I don't think the box very appropriate. Have removed it pending further discussion. I am flagging the issue at WP:Opera and WP:Wagner.--Smerus (talk) 10:29, 27 August 2015 (UTC==Sigurd==

'Sigurd'
I have removed from the lead and the infobox the unsourced and rather misleading 'information' that the opera is based on the legend of Sigurd. The article moreovoer makes it clear in a cited source that Wagner was (at least partly) inspired by the fairy tale The Story of the Youth Who Went Forth to Learn What Fear Was. In fact the article is unsatisfactory in not explaining the origins of the opera in an appropriate manner - at some point I hope to rewrite it and put it into shape.--Smerus (talk) 13:26, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Is this seriously something on wikipedia? Everyone knows that Siegfried is the same thing as Sigurd! lol73.220.34.167 (talk) 03:58, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * But where the story comes from, and indeed reliable information in general, is a different matter from 'what everyone knows'.--Smerus (talk) 18:48, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Do you know anything about either figure? They are very obviously the same person. Do you also doubt Günther being Gunnar? Or Wotan being Odin? Or Gutrune being Gudrun. Or Kriemhilde for that matter. The stories and the people are the same, regardless of source or language. 73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:13, 1 March 2016 (UTC)


 * My friend, try reading what is already in the article about Sigurd, and learn something about context. It's not what you know, or think you know, that counts; it's using and applying it in an appropriate manner.--Smerus (talk) 23:01, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 06:07, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Question regarding synopses and sources
The synopsis contains references sourced to one edition of the piano-vocal score, basically, each scene is referenced to the pages of the score which contain that scene. Is this appropriate? Do we use primary sources as references, and is it appropriate to post synopses with sources? Would we source a synopsis of, for instance, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn to a published edition of that book?

Please advise.

HandsomeMrToad (talk) 11:32, 19 December 2017 (UTC)