Talk:Siemens Velaro

My edits
Please bear with me if my English is not so good, especially not on the railway specific terminology. I trust that others will correct my errors and polish my style.

My data on the licencing process are taken from an article in "Elektrische Bahnen" -- I will try and learn how to give the source in Wikipedia manner.

The "Technical Specifications Interoperability" were alluded to in this article as originating from the European Union, but without giving a source. L.Willms 11:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Necessary changes
Changes which I deem as necessary, but can't make just right now:

a) ICE3 was developed on order by Deutsche Bahn and Nederlandse Spoorwegen, ICE is a trademark of DB, and Velaro is an evolution of this train offered by Siemens. OK, it makes sense to cover both the original ICE3 and the Siemens Velaro platform in arcticle, because they are one family of trains.

b) ICE3 was developed right from the very minute with international traffic in mind, i.e. both a national version suited for German and Austrian and some Swiss lines, and an international multi-system version for all for main energy systems found on European mainlines. The presentation in the current form of the article makes believe that the national version, class 403, was the original one, and then the multi-system version class 406 had been developed out of the national version. No, they were developed under one plan as one concept.

c) international certifications should be a chapter by itself;

c) there should be more discussion on the actual distribution of powered bogies and non-powered bogies, of the pantographs, transformators etc etc.

So far my to-do list. L.Willms 09:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I cannot agree more to waht you've said. The ICE 3 trains (built by a consortium of numberous firms) do not belong to the Siemens Velaro family (which were developed entirely by Siemens). I have just removed the ICE 3 part from the Velaro article, but that can only be a first step. --Bigbug21 (talk) 15:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The budget for the Siemens Velaro´s contract in Russia
According to the Railways Gazette the contract is worth 300 million euros for 8 trains, not 600--88.26.57.82 (talk) 02:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Full-Stop time
Hello - I was wondering how long it takes for a train at full speed to come to a full stop or what the requirements are, but couldn´t find the information anywhere. Can somebody add this information? I think it is importanted. 209.160.33.99 (talk) 13:45, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * From the german article: 3.900 m (320–0 km/h). 87.78.24.152 (talk) 05:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Still no ICx page??
I would have thought that a new trainset would call for a new page, but I'm surprised no one has started it yet. If I have some free time, I might start one if no one else does..... - Fan Railer (talk) 03:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I've been meaning to do that as well. I was bored, so here is a start, mainly based on the German page and a couple of news reports: ICx. Wheeltapper (talk) 11:56, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Siemens Velaro D/DB class 407 (BR 407)
Maybe in time a separate article is seen fit; meanwhile, redirected DB Class 407, Velaro D to Siemens Velaro Wakari07 (talk) 14:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * AVE S-103-Velaro in Barcelona-Sants.jpg
 * Velaro D at Stuttgart HBF.jpg

Infobox needs a diet
Infoboxes are supposed to be concise and ideally do not go into detailed statistics: H:IB. Since every Velaro variant has its own dedicated section, I do not see the need to have the reader be overwhelmed by the gigantic infobox detailing technical specs for every single (!) of the many Velaro derivatives.

Imo, a nice solution would be instead to present this technical information in a dedicated table, that allows for much better comparison across types. DracaenaGuianensis (talk) 03:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)