Talk:Sierra Club/Archive 2

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Membership Figures
According to the infobox, the club has 2,100,000 members, citing the official website, which as of today even claims 2,400,000. This seems huge, especially since in a 2012 Q&A on a New York Times blog Michael Brune talks about 601,000 members in 2011. The "about" page actually counts "members and supporters"; as the definition of a "supporter" can be quite flexible, I suppose that is where the discrepancy comes from. So: should the number in the infobox be replaced? Mwarf (talk) 15:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I know this is a little old, but the problem still remains. I actually think membership should be cut if no reliable third party source is found. Toad02 (talk) 13:59, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That's what inline attribution is for. A self-published and WP:PRIMARY source is considered as a WP:Reliable source for what it says about itself.  Putting that altogether, WP:Verification is satisfied with article text saying, in some fashion or other, According to the Sierra Club, as of date X their membership was y.(cited references). NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:06, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * However, I do see your point. Their marketing stuff does say "members and supporters".  So I looked up their legal pleadings, where the courts don't give a crap about online petitions and small donations.  In 2017 one of these said membership was "over 750,000 nationally", so I'll update the infobox with that figure and ref.  Thanks for calling it to our attention . NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:24, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That seems reasonable. Thank you! Toad02 (talk) 14:30, 29 July 2019 (UTC)