Talk:Sigourney Weaver/Archive 1

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I have no idea why the author left this in Talk:Internet Explorer, but it seems to go better here, so I'm copying it over.

I have a phonograph record "Feetlebaum Returns" recorded by comedian "Doodles Weaver who was Sigourney Weaver's uncle. It is autographed "To the World's greatest leather pusher, Hector, King of Troy- Best Wishes, Doodles Weaver 1974".

I am pretty sure that "Hector" is Hector Camacho. If it can be confirmed, I would like to send it to Miss Weaver. Doodles brother and Miss Weaver's father was Pat Weaver, Head of CBS.

Thank you for any help you may give me.

Bob Ramsdell, PO Box 948, Magalia, CA 95954 email: bobrams@jps.net

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hephaestos (talk • contribs) 4:20, 13 July 2003 (UTC)

Photo
More important than the nipples: If this is a movie still, has a permission been acquired to use it on Wikipedia? If not, it's a copyright violation and must be deleted. If permission has been granted, the details should be posted on the picture's descriptional page. Averell 22:00, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Golly! Isn't there a more, er, discreet photo of Weaver we could use? In the current photo, her blouse is a bit... translucent. &mdash;Frecklefoot 19:57, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)


 * The user who posted the picture, User:KF, also posted a picture of Christina Applegate that is, um, revealing. ThereIsNoSteve 20:11, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)


 * And the images of Demi Moore and Meg Ryan. What is this? A witchhunt? What exactly made you, ThereIsNoSteve, post the above comment? Have you ever thought about that? --KF 21:41, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)


 * Just happened on the Christina Applegate page before seeing this discussion. It just seemed that you had a proclivity towards selecting pictures of female actresses with their nipples showing. Some might find such pictures in poor taste for an encyclopedia. ThereIsNoSteve 05:10, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

It looks doctored. See Nude celebrities on the Internet. --Menchi 05:48, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)


 * Ah, my proclivity. You have not answered my question though what made you draw other people's attention to my alleged "proclivity", a move which in turn I think is in poor taste. I see a certain proclivity on the part of certain actresses to show their nipples, and I also feel there is some hypocritical aspect to this discussion. Posting two images of "naked" actresses: What a great basis for induction. If you have nothing else to worry about, you must be a lucky man. And there's always someone bound to mention the "doctored" aspect (see Talk:Sylvia Saint and in particular Image talk:Sylvia Saint.jpg). KF 19:50, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)


 * I did answer your question. I drew attention to your past behavior because I had just seen the Christina Applegate page, where you provided a similar picture of that actress also with her nipples clearly showing. I never made the leap that you had or would upload similar images, I simply noted factually what you had done. Now you've become defensive. Don't post pictures of women with their nipples showing, if you mind other people commenting on what you've done. ThereIsNoSteve 22:42, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)


 * I'm not defensive, I'm repentant. Just look at what I've done at Nudism: Can I ever be forgiven for posting external link [2] under Vienna, Austria? Humbly, KF 17:39, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

The image isn't doctored, I'm almost positive it's a screen shot from Death and the Maiden, and I would say fair use because it's just being supplied to illustrate what she looks like in an academic project, takes an incredibly small part of the film, and does not in any way supplant sales of the film. I don't necessarily have a problem with it myself, and I don't think we should go out of our way to find or avoid images that may have nudity in them if they are appropriate to the article. Perhaps just to avoid the connotation and allegations of a celeb nude web site, however, something of Ms. Weaver not in a wet t-shirt might be better. Or maybe just crop to the head and shoulders? Postdlf 00:42, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Movie credit missing
I'm a huge Sigourney Weaver fan and was surprised that I didn't see the mention of Snow White: A Tale of Terror, in which Sigourney did a fantastic job playing the role of the Claudia Hoffman; the wicked step mother and witch who gave Lilliana Hoffman (Snow White) the apple. She was awesome as was the entire movie! It came out in 1997 and you can get the review Here: !
 * Perhaps you would like to add it to the article? Any one can edit the page; be bold!  K ilo-Lima|(talk) 16:54, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

A better photo part three
Anyone has a better photo? I could make it, but I dont' know how. You've just contradicted yourself. I think we had a free-license one once, but I don't know what happened to it. Perhaps a better image would be good, but currently the image is fine. Iola k ana • T 20:25, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund
While doing a paper on primatology, I came accross this article, where at the bottom it states:

"In 1988 the Life and work of Dian Fossey was portrayed in the major motion picture Gorillas in the Mist, starring Sigourney Weaver. Ms. Weaver was so moved by her experience with the gorillas while filming that she became a supporter of the DFGF. Today Sigourney Weaver is DFGFI's Honorary Chairperson."

I thought it was worth mentioning in the article.--Farquaadhnchmn 18:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Heritage
It's funny, isn't it. Almost every person with an Irish-sounding name, or who has an Irish antecedant up to 200 years ago, is recorded in this resource as Irish-American. People like Weaver who are actually born to a British parent or parents and guess what: not British-American, not Anglo-American. Just American. I'll change that, but no doubt it'll soon be reverted.... 86.17.247.135 00:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No one should be described as Irish-American, British-Amercian, Italian-American, etc. in the header of the article under WP:MOSBIO (unless of course, it is confirmed that they are citizens of that other country). In this case, it appears Weaver is only American. Of course, her British heritage can be in the article and have a category, but that's a different story than actually being in the header. Mad Jack 09:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

5'12" tall?
I realize it's because someone entered 5ft 11½in in the height field, but her height is rendered as 5'12" which sounds downright stupid. Anyone know how to fix this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.6.198.192 (talk) 07:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC). No shit. This is ridiculous.

The blunt-stick approach would be to strike out the formula and simply replace it with "1.82m (5ft 11½in)". If someone can make the change in a more spohisticated way, please do. If not, I'll return with my blunt stick in a few days. Russ London 01:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Planet Earth
narrates the United States release, see: Planet Earth (TV series). Since this is a TV series rather than a film, should an entry for this go into, or elsewhere? --Teratornis 22:58, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:Ellen ripley.jpg
The image File:Ellen ripley.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check


 * That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
 * That this article is linked to from the image description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Media copyright questions. --10:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Yale & Harvard law school claims
The article's text had her attending Yale Law School. One of the categories describes her as an alumna of Harvard Law School. If there is a credible source for either claim, I have yet to find one on the web.

Can we eliminate the law school claims (Yale from text, Harvard from category)? Thank you.

AndersW (talk) 06:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Ms Weaver attended Stanford University. She however attended Yale Drama School. She recieved a chritical report from her teachers there and almost gave up acting hopes.Johnwrd (talk) 01:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Weaver and The Piano
Regarding ...here is a version that implies a slightly different story: https://www.tiscali.co.uk/tv/shows/cast/biog/sigourney-weaver/
 * Jane Campion wanted a "Sigourney Weaver-type" for her film The Piano, but Weaver's agent turned the film down without consulting Weaver. Holly Hunter went on to win the Oscar for the role, and Weaver fired her agent.
 * There were parts she was annoyed to miss out on. Having told her agent, Steve Dontonville, she didn't want to work during a particular period, you can imagine how she felt when Jane Campion asked him if he knew a Sigourney Weaver-type for The Piano and he recommended Holly Hunter.

I have slapped fact tags onto the first, current, version of the event. CapnZapp (talk) 12:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Awards section
I submit that portions of the "Awards" section of this article is unnecessary. I say this not because her Academy Award nominations fail to be noteworthy, but rather because those three nominations are mentioned three times in this article. The detail of those nominations are explicitly noted in the headline of the article, as well as the "Film Career" section, so why do we need to reiterate that in a separate "Awards" section? Perhaps further expounding on her Golden Globe nominations and any other awards would be more appropriate here.Kp.murphy (talk) 19:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Annie Hall
The carreer section says she played "critically acclaimed roles in movies such as ANNIE HALL, etc.."

She's only an extra in Annie Hall, her face hardly appears, please remove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mopcwiki (talk • contribs) 03:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Best known for
How has it been determined that the roles listed are the ones that she is best known for? This seems to be a personal opinion and should probably be removed or changed somehow. 216.36.132.66 (talk) 19:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The list is too long--no matter how many high-profile productions she's been in, the list of productions an actor is "best known for" should not exceed 2 or 3 IMO. My picks would be Ghostbusters and the Alien series, but then that's just personal opinion again. 75.145.136.37 (talk) 22:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed with above, She is best known for those two, not the others listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.163.49 (talk) 12:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

French
I have no reference about this, but I've seen her appear on French TV several times when I lived in Paris, and her French was near impeccable. Oddly enough, she speaks French with a British accent rather than an American accent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.178.123 (talk) 05:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Song named after her
In John Grant' album, Queen of Denmark, the 4th track is a song called "Sigourney Weaver": Excerpt:

"And I feel just like Sigourney Weaver When she had to kill those aliens and one guy tried to get them back to the earth and she couldn't believe her ears"

I think it should be mentioned (in which section?) Rps (talk) 12:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

A small point about Alien
In the original theatrical release of Alien, none of the characters has a first name. Weaver was simply "Ripley"; I don't know about the Director's Cut. If no-one objects, I'll remove the first name when Alien is referenced. 118.172.127.232 (talk) 12:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Hellbound Hound (talk) 05:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Sigorney's links to the UK
I just saw on the Craig fergusson Show [] that Sigorney's links to the UK just doesnt end with her mother who is English. Her father is Scottish descent and her husband is Scottish. It should be mentioned.Uthican (talk) 02:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I've heard her say in an interview that her name is correctly pronounced [si'gorni 'w@fer], not [wi:fer]. However, this might have been a joke, so - can anybody confirm or deny this? Anakonda 22:55, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wasn't she also in 1978 "madman"?Xiolugo91 (talk) 20:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I've never heard her say her own name, but her uncle, the late "Doodles" Weaver, pronounced it the normal way, i.e. "WEE-ver". Wahkeenah 3 July 2005 22:16 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is WEE-ver.  K ilo-Lima|(talk) 16:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Gay rights proponent
Can we perhaps mention her support for gay rights? She openly stated that she supported the repeal of DADT and has commended PFLAG and the Trevor Project for the work they do in this interview. I think it's worth a brief mention next to the bit about her environmental activism. 86.145.205.135 (talk) 03:22, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Grammar in Intro
The first paragraph ends with "She is also well known for her roles as Dana Barrett in Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II, Gorillas in the Mist, Working Girl, and Avatar."

Grammatically, this means that she starred as Dana Barrett in all five movies. I'd recommend either removing Dana Barrett from that sentence or adding the names of her roles for the last three listed movies. Larryhl45 (talk) 23:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Interview magazine article
Just reading through the interview they have with Sigourney - here - and there's a quote from her which seems ton directly contradict two items we have. From the magazine:
 * WEAVER: I hope not. I went on my Wikipedia page recently, which I never do, and it said I'd been engaged to this guy I was never engaged to, and it had me in Serpico [1973], which, of course, I was never in.

The Serpico statement is not backed up by any cite - do we have an idea where it came from?

As for the "engaged to this guy I was never engaged to", I reckon she's referring to statement "Weaver was engaged to reporter Aaron Latham in 1967." The original website is currently 404'd, but it can be pulled up here. To be honest, it doesn't look a lot different from what the IMDB bio pages are - can we consider it to be a reliable source, especially when she disagrees with what is being said?? Tabercil (talk) 01:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've removed the reference to Scorpio as it was unsourced, she does not appear to be credited in the movie and she disputes the claim in the linked interview. While I am not familiar with MovieTome, the Wikiepdia article seems to indicate that it was indeed a user-edited site. If that's the case, then it's a bad source and the claim should be removed. Mathias-S (talk) 17:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It should be removed. Torfilm (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and removed it. The source was a user edited page. Trying to find a different source than MovieTome proved difficult as most sites seem to reference Wikipedia. Mathias-S (talk) 20:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * In Serpico there is a party scene at about minute 30. There is a girl called "Sally". The actress resembles Sigourney Weaver very much in looks, voice and height. Imdb says this is Mary Louise Weller, but even now, knowing it is not Sigourney Weaver, I would still bet it is her. --88.77.5.148 (talk) 22:15, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
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Former nude model?
Is this the young Sigourney Weaver? If yes it should be mentioned that she is a former nude model. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.203.83.176 (talk) 11:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * difficult to say. The girl´s face looks very similar and it seems that theese are no fakes, because theese are magazine page scans I think. But I wonder, why this wasn´t mentioned anytime before.91.221.58.5 (talk) 11:43, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Addition: the lady is called Tamy, but not Sigourney, and the story text tells something about her life that definitely does not fit to Weaver´s real life. Weaver was born & grew up in New York — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.221.58.5 (talk) 14:59, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I fear the story is a tale...Key West is actual a part of Florida. But I think the only real facts are the images with Weaver, the rest is fake. I wonder how she could hide her "model experiance" all this time...Flk-Brdrf (talk) 19:21, 20 February 2013 (UTC)SIJUORNEY WEAVER
 * Since the photos where published in an magazine, these are doubtless no fakes. And it is not uncommon that stars did such jobs in the beginning (like Monroe). However is very remarkable that those photos were Weaver´s secret for so long time???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.178.185.52 (talk) 19:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You would seriously have to be blind to think that was Sigourney Weaver. It looks nothing like her. Smulrine (talk) 22:18, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


 * First Point) While that person has a face similar to Weaver's when she was young (you can compare Weaver's high school photo), it is not Weaver in the those photos. The biggest giveaway is the fact that Weaver has decidedly brown eyes while the person in these photos is blue eyed.
 * Second Point) It does not matter either way, anyway. Unless you have a Reliable Source on the matter, it can not be included in the article. Everything else is just Original Research or Synthesis (both of which is not allowed).
 * Case closed; no need for anyone to speculate further. — al-Shimoni  (talk) 20:59, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

The Sci-Fi Queen?
The article claims "Weaver acquired the nickname of the Sci-Fi Queen for her numerous contributions to science-fiction film history, ....". Should this be removed? I have found articles claiming this but it's still rather opinionated and disputable.--Ozzyofpi (talk) 20:58, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The list of works in that sentence also includes a reference to Finding Dory, which is pretty difficult to consider a science fiction movie. Unless anyone objects, I'm going to remove that title from the list. Webster100 (talk) 06:51, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * She has been frequently referenced as such (though, I usually hear it as "the Queen of Sci-Fi") so this reference probably should be rescued from deletion. I just did a google search with "the queen of sci-fi" in quotation marks, and not only does quite a long list of articles from reliable sources pop up (most with both the search term and Weaver's name in the title), but Google also displays an information box of Sigourney Weaver on the side (even though her name was not used in the search) so there is something in Google's algorithm triggering the association. One of those many articles from established news sources should have enough information on the topic to be used as a citation. — al-Shimoni  (talk) 21:12, 26 November 2016 (UTC)