Talk:Silicium escapement wheel

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Peter Stas of Frederique Constant (CEO) is author of this article and permits Wikipedia to show on its site

Pcstas 11:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC) — Pcstas (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

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A silicium escapement wheel is a revolutionary development in mechanical watchmaking. It does not require lubrication. Frédérique Constant of Geneva developped an escapement for a mechanical movement that incorporates a silicium escapement wheel that will no longer need lubrication. Silicium is the ideal material for use in watch making as it is not magnetic, is extremely hard (1100 Vickers compared to 700 Vickers for steel), and is highly resistant to corrosion. The biggest advantage of a silicium escapement wheel is that it does not need to be lubricated. As it does not need to be lubricated, previously mentioned disadvantages such as age-related thinning and drying of lubrication will no longer occur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcstas (talk • contribs) — Pcstas (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * So far the only evidence to support your 'revolutionary' claim is in articles you created about yourself and your company. The Kinslayer 11:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see i.e. following links on usage of Silicium in escapement of mechanical watches:


 * http://www.net2watches.net/default.aspx?PageName=iW-2005+May%3A+Reinventing+the+Wheel+p.2
 * or
 * http://www.revolution-press.com/news/?p=140


 * Pcstas 11:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC) — Pcstas (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * The articles above as well as this review of the Ulysse Freak indicate that the Freak was the first to use a silicon escapement wheel.

Re conflict of interest
The article indeed (to me) creates the impression of a promotional piece rather than a description. Paul Koning 10:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. Pcstas, Director of the Frederique Constant watch co., gratuitously mentions his own product, the Heart Beat watch, in the second sentence.  The picture is of his own escape wheel with his company's logo worked into it.  Most of the text is ad copy from a Frederique press release.  He doesn't mention the many other watch manufacturers making silicon escape wheels, such as Ulysse Nardin, Jaeger LeCoulter, and Breguet.  The article also violates NPOV, presenting the silicon escape wheel as the wave of the future. He doesn't mention any doubts, disadvantages of silicon such as brittleness and high temperature coefficient, or that it is only one of many high tech materials being tried in escapements, such as nickel phosphorus and diamond. This is an ad, and needs to be either completely rewritten, or preferably edited down to a few sentences and merged into some other article. --Chetvorno 01:14, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Re merging/moving
Probably a more logical place to merge this material would be the article Lever escapement since that's what we are dealing with here. Paul Koning 10:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. What's left of this article was put in Lever escapement. --Chetvorno 12:27, 20 October 2007 (UTC)