Talk:Simit

Last paragraph
I think the last para should be rewritten. It might be good on wikitravel but not here. DenizTC 04:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Something as transient as the price should go, and as to the "rule of thumb for obtaining fresh simit", one of my favorite quips is that you shouldn't get your simit from a vendor with a large supply, as it indicates nobody wants to buy their simit. But the fact that they are sold by street vendors advertising their wares with taze simit can remain, as far as I'm concerned. --Lambiam 10:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Ancient Greek origin?
In Little-Scott-Jones (LSJ) dictionary for ancient Greek you will find the words κολλούρα (kolloura) and κολλύρα (kollura) for such kind of bread. Wouldn't it be reasonable to think that modern Greek κουλούρι(ον) (koulourion) originates from these ancient times? (Whether the recipe has evolved since then or not.)

The Ottomans certainly adopted a lot of food from the aboriginal Greeks and especially the imperial (Byzantine) court, after all.

That, apparently, in some regions of Greece the people use the Arabic/Turkish word (simit) instead of the Greek word koulouri does not counter the assumption. Many dishes which have been already known in Greek antiquity are nowadays called by Turkish or Persian words instead of their ancient Greek equivalent, e.g. the stuffed wine leaves, which where called θρία (thria) in antiquity, but today are called ντολμάδες (dolmades). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.114.38.105 (talk) 07:05, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Κολλύρα (kollura) and κουλλούριον (koullourion) are also to be found in SUDA Online dictionary for medieval Greek, by the way. Again for a kind of bread. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.114.38.105 (talk) 07:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Such types of bread are even dating back to ancient Egypt. So, yes. It's very likely predating the Turks at least by many centuries.

Also notable, food with an authentic Turkish or Ottoman origin has often a somewhat similar name in Greek. Not in this case.--89.144.221.255 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:10, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * while some dishes with turkish names in Greek cuisine are of Ottoman origin, many others still just changed a name while still having existed far before the Ottomans. 2A02:586:C427:BF62:1921:71B1:B936:CDD0 (talk) 18:21, 3 September 2023 (UTC)