Talk:Simpcw First Nation

Thompson Indians
Is this group the same as the Thompson Indians written about by James Alexander Teit in 1900 (published as vol 1 part 4 of the Jesup North Pacific Expedition)? Or are there other groups sometimes referred to as Thompson Indians as well? -- Ngio 10:59, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * no; they are Shuswap (Secwepemc). The Thompson Indians spoken of by Teit are the Nlaka'pamux and partly the Nicola people (who are partly Nlaka'pamux ethnically); they are concentrated on the lower Fraser Canyon and the adjacent lower Thompson River (below Kamloops Lake, at the head of which is the city of Kamloops where the North Thompson River meets the South Thompson River (Kamloops means "rivers meeting" in Shuswap/Secwepemctsin); the Nlaka/pamux/Thompson name for Lytton, their historical "capital" (not politically) also means "waters meeting" - "Kumsheen" historically, now p.c.-spelled Camchin.Skookum1 03:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC) (this comment copied here from User talk:Skookum1 by Ngio 14:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC))

Name problem
The name should either be North Thompson Indian Band or Simpcw First Nation. The current compound/double name is not proper for a title; User:Esemono was hell-bent for leather making articles without reviewing naming conventions (or even correct locations or, in this case, spelling as it had been "Simpew" instead of "Simpcw" until I changed it.Skookum1 (talk) 19:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem is that one of the two references refers to them as the Simpcw North Thompson Indian Band. So, the proper course of action would be to find more reliable sources, and find out what the common usage is. DigitalC (talk) 15:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

References for name
Google search for Simpcw turns up ~9000 hits including
 * http://www.simpcw.com/default.htm
 * http://www.aboriginalcanada.gc.ca/acp/community/site.nsf/en/fn691.html
 * http://www.wd.gc.ca/eng/77_11462.asp
 * http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/barrierestarjournal/news/63509407.html

Google search for "North Thompson Indian" comes up with ~30,000 hits including and not many other reliable sources.
 * http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/haa/Docs/North_Thompson_IB.pdf (PDF - 2004)
 * http://maps.fphlcc.ca/simpcw (Which documents that NTIB is their former name)

So, while the Google search came up with more hits for NTIB, more reliable sources were (easily) found which used the name Simpcw.

I would suggest renaming the article Simpcw First Nation, with a redirect from North Thompson Indian Band, and have the current title redirect there as well. DigitalC (talk) 15:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There do not appear to be any objections (given this discussion and the fact that it's been posted at WP:CANBOARD for the better part of a year), so the request for an admin to undertake the move should be made at WP:RM under "uncontroversial requests". --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)