Talk:Sine Chadi

Conflict of interest tag
Since has declared a COI (but not whether he's a paid editor), I'm tagging the article with the COI tag so other editors can scrutinize their edits. —C.Fred (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I am someone who knows the subject and is updating to make it more complete and current. It is not a conflict to do so — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonMBC (talk • contribs) 17:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * It is absolutely a conflict if you are editing about your friend. —C.Fred (talk) 17:59, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

How is it a conflict if I am edit accurately - the content on the page is grossly out of date and reflect nothing of his last 20 years.

I can see if I am putting information that is not accurate but that is not the case — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonMBC (talk • contribs) 18:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * It is a conflict because you have declared an external relationship with the subject. —C.Fred (talk) 18:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

So what, that is a basis for knowledge and accuracy, and I don't mind disclosing that I know him — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonMBC (talk • contribs) 18:13, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

And no I am not being paid to update the site and thus there is no conflict to declare.WinstonMBC (talk) 18:22, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

So outside of adding references for what I am wanting to post (which I am happy to do and was actually in the process of doing when you undid everything) what would you have me do?WinstonMBC (talk) 18:25, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Outside of adding sources and the fact that I know the subject - what is your objection to sourceable content????? Seriously. 18:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonMBC (talk • contribs)

OK I finally have time to come back to this and I have revised context that is completely sourced in order to update this page.

Our local community wants to fix this page and is proposing to submit the following - all of which is properly sourced - is there going to be an objection? Proposed copy for addition/editing is below.

Sine Kassim Chadi (b. 1956) is businessman, philanthropist and former politician. He is currently CEO and Chairman of Imperial Equities Inc. a publicly traded company on the TSX Venture Exchange. Sine has been responsible for overseeing all aspects of the company’s growth and development, and has worked in the real estate and development industry for more than 40 years. He is the owner of several companies involved in real estate sales, asset management, property management and mortgage financing . He is also a well known local philanthropist who has given generously to organizations in the Edmonton region Sine was also elected to the Alberta Legislature in 1993 as the MLA for Edmonton Roper and he served one term, leaving politics in 1997. Contents:

Early Life Political career Business Career Philanthropy Personal Life

Early Life:

The Chadi Family was among Canada’s first Lebanese settlers, first travelling into the Lac La Biche area in 1895, where they participated in the fur trade, set up a general store and provided some of the most significant regional competition to the Hudson’s Bay Company. Sine’s father Mike (Mahmoud) and his wife Zeher had six children, of which Sine was the third. Zeher Chadi passed away from breast cancer at the young age of 34 in 1967 when Sine was only 10 years old. Mike Chadi expanded his business focus to the Fort Chipwyan area and opened a general store in that area in 1972 while Sine and his siblings looked after and expanded their properties and businesses in the Lac La Biche area.

1993 Election and Political Career:

Chadi temporarily diverted his business activities when he agreed to stand for election as the Liberal candidate in Edmonton Roper during the 1993 Provincial Election, an election that saw the Alberta Liberal Party under Laurence Decore lose narrowly to Ralph Klein’s Conservatives in what was, to that point, the closest election in Alberta history. As a newly elected member of the Alberta Liberal Caucus, Chadi served as a Deputy Finance critic as well as critic for Economic Development and Trade and Science and Research, and Treasury, . He also served as a member of the Public Accounts Committee, as well as on the Committees on the Alberta Heritage Savings Fund Act,the Select Standing Committee on law and Regulations and the Select Standing Committee on Public Affairs http://www.assembly.ab.ca/net/index.aspx?p=memberprofile&mid=0657.

In 1995, he ran for Leader of the Alberta Liberal Party, and after a controversial and divisive leadership campaign, Chadi chose to walk away, complete his term as MLA not to run for a second term in the Legislature. Business Career: Sine’s earliest business activities took root in his parent’s businesses, and quickly evolved into his own activities, from buying and trading furs to working in the livestock industry. Sine’s business interests began to expand into the construction and management of retail fuel service centres in Lac La Biche, Grassland, Hinton and Grand Cache (all in Alberta) a mortgage business (North American Mortgage Corp.) and an insurance agency (Portage La Biche Insurance), as well as a growing real estate business  In 1987, he moved his business operations to the new downtown Edmonton Tower, Scotia Place, where he continues to be based to this day. In 1998, Sine founded Imperial Equities with three properties, valued at about $10 million, from a related Corporation, Imperial Land Limited. The company has grown steadily over 20 years to the point where is has close to 1 million square feet in over 25 properties. Imperial also holds significant land for future development and its overall assets are valued at more than $225 million. Philanthropy:

Chadi is a community leader who has actively and financially supported many community groups and charities. He is known for his ability to energize and inspire donors with his rousing auctioneering activities and is quick to offer a lead donation at charity events His philanthropy involves not just donating but bringing his business and promotion know-how to the aid of many causes.

In addition to being a generous donor, Chadi is an active participant in the fundraising activities of many organizations. He was fundraising chair of a $7 million campaign for the Glenrose Rehabilitation Hospital Foundation, where he also served as a Board Member for many years. The Chadi Family Foundation, made the lead donation to the Glenrose’s Capital Campaign in 2018, committing $1 million .

Chadi has also been a leading donor and organizer for E4C, an organization focused on anti-poverty initiatives and operator of Edmonton City Hall’s Hallway Café which provides job and life skills support to vulnerable youth <https://e4calberta.org/2019/04/i-like-the-idea-of-something-different/.

Chadi also currently serves a Director of the Parkinson Association of Alberta, and of the Gordon and Diane Buchanan Family Foundation , which has spearheaded the construction and operation of the $6 million Buchanan Centre as a wellness centre for people suffering from Parkinson disease. He has also served on the Board of the Capital Care Foundation and continues to financially support the organization. He was financing chair for the $23 million Edmonton Islamic Academy

Personal Life:

Chadi has received numerous awards for his business achievements and community involvement including being recognized as a recipient of the Queen Elizabeth Golden Jubilee Medal (2002) , Alberta Centennial Medal (2005) and the Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Medal (2012) . Sine was inducted to the City of Edmonton Hall of Fame (2013). — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonMBC (talk • contribs) 19:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Some of it will have to be rewritten. I'm looking at phrases like "generous donor", which are a little fluffy for an encyclopedia article. It also looks like some of the sources are primary: I see citations to organizations he's affiliated with. —C.Fred (talk) 21:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Edits to this page are now complete and I believe all conflict issues have been dealt with. I also believe the sourcing issues have now been dealt with. I would like to request removal of the tags at the top of this page. If there are issues with this request, please advice what needs to be remedied. Thank you. WinstonMBC (talk) 19:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)WinstonMBC


 * Until independent editors have had a chance to review the article, the tags need to stay—especially the COI tag. —C.Fred (talk) 23:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


 * How/when will a review occur? Can it be requested?  Has it been?  (talk) 19:14, 3 July 2020 WinstonMBC (talk) 17:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)WinstonMBC

Proposed update - May 27, 2020
I am suggesting updates to this page that will make it more fulsome, ensure proper sourcing etc. I will submit this section by section - please advise. The following is a proposed update of the intro section - please advise is acceptable WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 16:44, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Sine Kassim Chadi (b. February 13, 1956) is businessman, philanthropist and former politician. He is currently CEO and Chairman of Imperial Equities Inc. a publicly traded company on the TSX Venture Exchange. Chadi has been the CEO of companies involved in real estate and mortgage industries. Chadi was also elected to the Alberta Legislature in 1993 as the MLA for Edmonton Roper. He served one term.


 * Oppose. The tone does not feel encyclopedic with the glowing praise, even if directly quoted, and why is the date of birth being pulled back? —C.Fred (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * revisedThe praise is a quote but I am fine to lose it - also don't object to including birthdate, revised above - WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 17:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Are there more issues or can I go ahead and update? WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 18:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


 * It still needs more work. —C.Fred (talk) 19:01, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Can you elaborate? Assuming your issue is that his public company document was used as a source, I've changed that above with two secondary sources as substitute - is there something else? WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk)


 * revised above are there still objections - if so can you please indicate what you are objecting to? WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 16:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposed update - June 3, 2020
Sine Kassim Chadi (b. February 13, 1956) is businessman, philanthropist and former politician. He is currently CEO and Chairman of Imperial Equities Inc. a publicly traded company on the TSX Venture Exchange. Chadi has been the CEO of companies involved in real estate and mortgage industries. Chadi was also elected to the Alberta Legislature in 1993 as the MLA for Edmonton Roper. He served one term.

The above is the proposed copy that I will insert on the actual page if there are no further objections. If there are pleased clarify in detail, but I have made all adjustments suggested to date. If I do not hear here, I will update the page tomorrow and then move on to the next proposed update. WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I have inserted this new text but am not sure why the references did not get posted at the bottom? Help? WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 15:51, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposed Update - June 5, 2020
The following is a proposed revision to the politics section. Right now the section is incomplete and not sourced at all. The attached is more complete and properly referenced - WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Political Career:

From 1993 to 1997, Chadi was a Member of the Legislative Assembly (MLA), elected as the Liberal candidate in Edmonton Roper during the 1993 Provincial Election. The election saw the Alberta Liberal Party under Laurence Decore lose narrowly to Ralph Klein’s Conservatives in what was, to that point, the closest election in Alberta history. He defeated incumbent New Democrat MLA Christie Mjolness to win his seat. Chadi served as a Deputy Finance critic as well as critic for Economic Development and Trade and Science and Research, and Treasury, . He also served as a member of the Public Accounts Committee, as well as on the Committees on the Alberta Heritage Savings Fund Act,the Select Standing Committee on law and Regulations and the Select Standing Committee on Public Affairs

In 1994, he ran for Leader of the Alberta Liberal Party. in a controversial and divisive leadership process, which was ultimately won by Grant Mitchell. Chadi completed his term as MLA, and did not to run for a second term in the Legislature.

Seeking comments on proposed update above
I posted this June 5 and do not see any comments or concerns with the content. If there are none by tomorrow, I will use this content to replace what is on the page. WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

proposed new section
This is a replacement for current philanthropy section which is not sourced at all. Seeking comments on this section please and thanks. WinstonMBC (talk) 14:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)WinstonMBC

Chadi has supported many community groups and charities. He is known for his rousing auctioneering activities and for his generosity His has also offered business and promotion counsel to many causes.

Chadi is an active participant in the fundraising activities of many organizations. He was fundraising chair of a $7 million campaign for the Glenrose Rehabilitation Hospital Foundation, where he also served as a Board Member for many years. The Chadi Family Foundation, made the lead donation to the Glenrose’s Capital Campaign in 2018, committing $1 million.

Chadi has also been a lead organizer for E4C, an organization focused on anti-poverty initiatives and operator of Edmonton City Hall’s Hallway Café which provides job and life skills support to vulnerable youth. He was also the organizer of the Premier’s Wild Game Dinner which raised money for multiple causes.

Chadi also currently serves a Director of the Parkinson Association of Alberta, and of the Gordon and Diane Buchanan Family Foundation , which has spearheaded the construction and operation of the $6 million Buchanan Centre as a wellness centre for people suffering from Parkinson disease. He has also served on the Board of the Capital Care Foundation and continues to financially support the organization. He was also finance chair for the $23 million Edmonton Islamic Academy

Seeing no edits or objections - I am updating the main page to reflect this copy. WinstonMBCWinstonMBC (talk) 19:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposed new section
This is a proposed new section altogether. There is one citation that comes from his company document but it is from the audited financial statements. An external auditor reviews these statements and provides a letter of reliance which is published in the document. As per previous sections, please let me know if there are needed edits or other challenges to the material posted.

Business Career: Sine’s earliest business activities were within his family businesses, from buying and trading furs to working in the livestock industry. Sine’s business interests began to expand into the construction and management of retail fuel service centres, a mortgage business and an insurance agency as well as a real estate business In 1987, he moved his business operations to Edmonton, where he continues to be based. In 1998, Sine founded Imperial Equities. . The company has grown over 20 years to the point where is has approximately 1 million square feet of leasable space. Imperial assets are valued at more than $220 million (2019 financial). . — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonMBC (talk • contribs) 19:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

proposed new section
This is the final addition I propose to make. Again it provides more detail and actual sourcing, including from an academic text. all is cited WinstonMBC (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2020 (UTC)WinstonMBC

Early Life:

The Chadi Family was among Canada’s first Lebanese settlers, first travelling into the Lac La Biche area in 1895, where they participated in the fur trade, set up a general store and provided some of the most significant regional competition to the Hudson’s Bay Company. Sine’s father Mike (Mahmoud) and his wife Zeher had six children, of which Sine was the third. Zeher Chadi passed away from breast cancer at the young age of 34 in 1967. Mike Chadi expanded his business focus to the Fort Chipwyan area and opened a general store in that area in 1972 while Sine Chadi and his siblings looked after the local businesses in the Lac La Biche area. Sine graduated from High School in Lac La Biche in 1973