Talk:Singapore Airlines Flight 006

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Typo Alert - Filename of the embedded [runway] photo: "SA600 Runway.png" would be better-named as "SQ006 Runway.png"

Due to a "broken link" on another page, I created this stub. Then, on another list, I discovered Singapore Airlines Flight 6. I fixed the link, now this article needs to be deleted. 216.164.138.57 13:33, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi, this is for the unknown editor who made changes on 1 Feb 06. IMHO, the insertions you made under 'Aftermath' should either be put in 'Findings' or 'Controversy', since they relate directly to the accident investigation and the controversy that ensued.

I am also concerned about the last 2 paragraphs you have inserted in 'Aftermath'. The paragraph quote "The SQ6 Captain, thought that the green centerline... runway edge lights for guidance in low visibility conditions." unquote is from Pg 135 of the ASC's final report and the paragraph quote "About 2245 on October 23, 2000, a MD-11 freighter had been given clearance to taxi... MD-11 Captain was conducted on Feb 16, 2001, and a second interview was conducted on July 19, 2001, at ASC headquarters." is from Pg 149 of the same report. Both paragraphs are almost verbatim copies, with small changes for readability.

I am no copyright guru but I think there is a cause for concern with regards to the last 2 paragraphs. I would suggest either to rewrite the paragraphs with minimal quotes or remove them altogether, as the ASC report is not public domain.Neofaun 14:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

CVR transcript
I removed the CVR transcript from this entry and added an external link to a CVR/ATC transcript at the end of the article. Although I respect the efforts of whoever attempted to present a "cut" version of the transcript in this article, it's not particularly illuminating for those using the article as a general reference source, and those who are interested can easily visit the external CVR/ATC source (as is done in most other aircraft incident articles). Let me know if there are significant issues with this. plmoknijb 14:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I need to get archives of the articles cited here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oddnews/message/210 WhisperToMe 01:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Coffins of decesed.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:Sq6wreckagejpg.jpg
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This article is not ready for GAN
Although I would love to see this article attain GA status, in its current state, it is sorely not ready. There are several major issues with the article, which include, but are not limited to:


 * The article is poorly organised. There are far too many one-sentence paragraphs; in fact, there is a section - "Film" - with only one sentence. Details about the casualties are excessive. Consider merging sections like "Investigation findings" and "Contesting investigation findings".
 * Most of the citations are not properly formatted. Citations should go after a punctuation mark, with no spaces in between, and should not merely be links without citation information.
 * BetacommandBot has tagged two of the images in this article as having no fair use rationale.

I suggest that the GA nomination be withdrawn or failed. Once the issues have been addressed, file a peer review and then renominate the article.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 09:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above, and have failed this GAN. A few more things; way too many external links, which could be used as references. Also, the ref placement is a problem, as are the standalone paragraphs/sentences. Also, I think there is an overuse of images which may not really be "educational"...best to remove the fair use images, regardless, and just go with free.
 * Anyways, feel free to contact me or J.L.W.S. when you've fixed some of these issues, if you want more comments. I haven't watchlisted this page, but you can contact my talk page if you want me to take a look at anything or reply to anything. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 09:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Relative to wrong use of runways
An example is Western Airlines Flight 2605, which attempted to land in the wrong runway and crashed into parked vehicles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.171.16.174 (talk) 21:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

A story regarding a survivor of the crash
Web link: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/jobs/21boss.html

I hope someone can incorporate the above story into this Wikipedia article.
 * Hi! This is "A Lesson in a Runway Crash" by William Wang (as told to Amy Zipkin), June 20, 2009. New York Times. June 21, 2009, on page BU9. I'm really not sure how much of this can be incorporated - Op-eds are not usually used as sources of facts, just as sources of notable opinions WhisperToMe (talk) 08:08, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems like it's mostly about Wang, and very little of it is about the crash. I'm not sure it can be used in this article. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:10, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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article is unclear about runways
The article is unclear about runways. It shows 05R and 05L on one side of the terminals. The Taoyuan_International_Airport article shows 05R on one side of the terminals, the terminals in the middle, and 05L on the other side of the terminals.

Was the runway configuration different than it is now?

Vanguard10 (talk) 04:16, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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Mirror of final accident report
I found it was posted to http://web.archive.org/web/20040617235344/http://hotftp.hinet.net/files/asc/SQ006_ENG.pdf, linked by the ASC WhisperToMe (talk) 22:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Additional video content
The Singapore newspaper Lianhe Zaobao uploaded to YouTube an interview with a former flight attendant who survived SQ006, Farzana Abdul Razak It is in Mandarin and English, with alternate audio in each and subtitles in both (Farzana was interviewed in English but much of the commentary was in Mandarin) WhisperToMe (talk) 17:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Speed
A huge detail missing from the crash description is the aircraft's speed at the point of impact. Did they reach V1, etc.? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:14, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

When was aircraft 9V-SPL repainted?
In the section, Aftermath, it states, "After the accident, 9V-SPL, the sister aircraft painted with the same livery, was immediately removed from service and repainted with standard Singapore Airlines livery." This is contradicted by the date (18 November 2000) of. &mdash;⁠71.105.198.152 (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The closest answer source I could get is from an online forum, where a member claimed that the plane got repainted in December 2000. I have the link if you would like to see that, but I don't think it's a good idea to drop it here. Naufal Praw (talk) 00:30, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Info box image change.
I have twice reverted a recent image change to this article. I have suggested that such changes should be discussed first as appears customary and sensible in most cases for aircrash articles. The proposed image is much more busy than the current one and I see no need for a change, nor was a reason given. And the place the suggested photograph was taken is of no interest to this article so including this in the caption is not necessary.Maungapohatu (talk) 04:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)