Talk:Singing/Archive 1

Promotion
Promoted from being a stub. -- Beland 2 July 2005 04:22 (UTC)

Songstress
== Taylor Looney is the next famous singer you would want to here!{| class="wikitable"

The information under this heading, apart from the spelling errors, is wrong; the word can be applied to any woman who sings. At best this definition should be folded into the material above, not given its own section.--Adoorajar 22:19, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I concur; the songstress need not be in her own category, since the term refers to a female who crafts songs, prob. a subset of the singer-songwriter. I therefore recommend redirection of "songstress" to the "singer-songwriter" article. - B.C.Schmerker 09:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Simon Le Bon ? COME ON !
We can do better. How about a picture of Freddie Mercury or Chris Cornell, you know, good singers.

I agree, someone should change Simon LeBon, you can hardly regard him as being one of the great frontmen. --Lemmy Kilmister--
 * I don't care if he's replaced, but the replacement must be a free image, not a "fair use" image, per WP:FUC. I removed the Lennon pic. --Rob 00:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Replaced with Freddie Mercury. --Lemmy Kilmister 09:43, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Screaming???
What on earth is "hardcore screaming"? There is no link to a hardcore screaming article, and no definition on this page. It should be defined or removed. --Rosencrantz1 18:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

No modern singers
This section seems to be devoted to classical singers only, as it leaves out other kinds of music. Someone expand it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Orthologist (talk • contribs) 11:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

As I understand things, most of the basic training for the classical singer is directly applicable to the modern singer as well. The similarities and differences between classical and modern-music applications of singing could use more research before further addition to applicable sections of this article. - B.C.Schmerker 10:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Ozzy Osbourne?
He looks a lot like LeAnn Rimes in that picture. What picture/caption is supposed to be there? Agatehawk 17:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

According to Alfred Alexander...
"According to Alfred Alexander (formally a ENT consultant to the home office), "a singer is a person of adequate musicality, who is gifted with a voice of such power and beauty that competent judges can recommend singing as a career". Alexander believes that 1 in 50,000 in the UK possess such gifts, which means in England (800,000 births a year average) 16 people are born with such a voice a year, making 500 "first class voices" active in any particular generation (taken as 30 years) at any one time.[1]"

What does ENT mean? Is this paragraph really relavent/appropriate? It seems kind of random to me. kaiti-sicle 05:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Ear nose throat specialist. And you don't think a paragraph about how many people make good singers is appropriate to an article about singing?--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 20:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This whole paragraph is total nonsense and should be removed. Alfred Alexander is a nose and throat doctor. So what? Why are his silly statistics worthy of being cited here?--Gilabrand 14:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

POV-check
Singers are not only in euorope but also in all over the world. This article contains only about europe. Jpandey 08:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I have rm'd the tag, if you think it's too euro-centric, add info about other places. Other wiki editors are not here to do what you want for you at yr whim.--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 20:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Why would this page not qualify for a style tag? The tags exist to bring attention to the article from experts, which this article is in need of. It does quite well for Europe, but needs to deal with the rest of the world as well. I am going to add a globalize tag in a day (unless somebody can make changes otherwise) as I agree with Jpandey on this issue. --Edwin Herdman 10:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Second paragraph might need deleting/moving
I don't think that the second paragraph about "how good a singer is" makes much sense in the context of this brief article. Also, it seems more opinion based than factually verifiyable. Peter 21:55, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it POV. The paragraph is from a respected British Ear nose throat specialist who says that out of many people, only a few people are actually good singers. Now, given what we see on programs such as American Idol, i'd say it's pretty close to the nail. --I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 20:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You are also saying the only cited paragraph in the article should be removed. It's simply not going to happen. I am however perfectly allowed to delete the rest of the article, what with it being completely unsourced.--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 20:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It did happen, and the article is better for it. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 00:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Lead vocal
Lead vocals redirects to this page, but doesn't appear on it. Can someone please add the info? Also, is "lead vocal" a valid singular form? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 19:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Depending on the context of a particular song, the lead vocal could be assigned to any range from baritone to soprano in a modern work. The lead part in American men's quartets corresponds to the tenor in specific, while in other styles it could be higher or lower. It looks as though the lead vocal issue could be better explained in terms of task specifics. - B.C.Schmerker 10:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

there are new forms f singing all diffrent kinds like r and b gospel and so on

Frontman redirects to this page but this it says nothing about it. Someone should add this information. Also, a frontman of a band is not necessarily always the singer of a band. 154.20.173.218 (talk) 02:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I second that. Front man also redirects here, but the term is not specific to singers. In this case I had just read the article on mobster Allen Glick, in which he is described as a front man for a crime syndicate. "Front man" is a very general term, e.g. this article from the Washington Post in which an American General is described as a front man. It's certainly used a lot to describe lead singers, but even then it should redirect to something like rock group or rock star. I suggest that the redirects at frontman and front man are removed and that those pages are deleted, and that every adult male in the US sends me one dollar (in dollars). -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 00:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Odd wording
"Backing vocals is to sing certain parts of the song, but less than 50%," Seems a bit awkward to me - is "backing vocals" really singular, and where did the 50% come from? Huw Powell (talk) 22:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)