Talk:Sir David Graaff, 1st Baronet

Spelling of the surname
Discussion is at Graaff Baronets. - Kittybrewster  (talk) 06:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Naming
See From WP:NCNT#4:
 * Baronets, as they hold hereditary titles, often for a large part of their lives, follow the same practice as hereditary peers and should have their title noted in the beginning of the article. The format is Sir John Smith, 17th Baronet. For the article title, this format should only be used when disambiguation is necessary; otherwise, the article should be located at John Smith. John Smith, 17th Baronet should never be used with the postfix and without the prefix.

Therefore this articles name should be changed.--Ginggangsgoolies 20:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I think Ginggangsgoolies is right. I will also think that the names of all of the Graaff baronet pages should be changed so as to meet this format.--Discott (talk) 10:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Date when Sir David was knighted
Am I reading the info incorrectly or what? To me it seems as if he was knighted in 1911 for services rendered during WW1 and in 1919. Mieliestronk (talk) 20:45, 24 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Problem still not resolved:

In the intro we have this sentence: During World War I he personally part financed the South African war effort and for this he was knighted as well as for services at the Paris Peace Conference 1919.

In "Public service and political career (1882-1897)" we read: ... the Graaff Electric Lighting works ... power station was erected near the Molteno reservoir on Table Mountain. The Graaff part of the name refers to David Pieter de Villers-Graaff (created Sir in 1911) who was between 1891-1892 Mayor of Cape Town ...

The question remains: When was he knighted? He could not have have become a Sir in 1911. Mieliestronk (talk) 18:53, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Involvement in Anglo Boer War and British atrocities against Boers and Blacks
"During the Anglo-Boer War (1899–1902), Graaff obtained lucrative contracts to supply the British Army in the field, but he also made substantial donations towards alleviating the suffering of Boer prisoners of war, and providing medical supplies to Boer women and children held in British Army concentration camps."

I heard that slightly different. It wasn't really about medical supplies that were provided to the Boers in the concentration camps. What he, or his employees, did was picking up the killed cattle in the field and deliver the carcasses to the camps, where they then were used as food for Boer or Black prisoners. What's in the article sounds more like a hagiography of him, to place him in a better light, which is plausible, since he was an influential man --41.150.170.130 (talk) 20:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)