Talk:SixthSense

Vandalism
around the same time, 18.111.31.125 removed Pranav Mistry from SixthSense 38.121.44.15 also removed Pranav Mistry from SixthSense.

This appears to be vandalism by someone from M.I.T., e.g. dhcp-18-111-31-125.dyn.mit.edu

Something needs to be done about this repeated vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.246.189 (talk) 19:00, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

As of Mar. 6, 2019, "SixthSense is a gesture-based wearable computer system developed at MIT Media Lab by Bruce Willis in 1994 and 1997" Someone should fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.22.248 (talk) 23:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Steve Mann or Pranav Mistry?
I don't think the current discussion of vandalism is going to solve anything until we determine who developed "SixthSense". Without verifying the print publications that reference Steve Mann and the words "sixth sense" we cannot determine who is truly vandalizing the page. Someone from MIT might be trying to protect the page from vandalism. Then again, if Steve Mann has verifiable and confirmed copyrights or trademarks, then someone from MIT is vandalizing the page.

'''Who done it? Pranav Mistry or Steve Mann'''

Summary so far:
 * The SixthSense page was originally created at 21:24 on March 28, 2009
 * The references indicate Mistry as the inventor provide two verifiable citations. No mention of Mann.
 * Steven Mann is not mentioned until an edit by 142.150.236.135 at 22:07 on April 7, 2010
 * 142.150.236.135 traces back to the University of Toronto
 * Changes ensue, switching between Minstry and Mann as the inventor
 * Vandalism claims thrown about.
 * Now the article SixthSense has little if any mention of Mistry
 * Currently Mistry's wiki does not link to SixthSense
 * Minstry's wiki entry does mention him as the inventor of SixthSense
 * Currently Mann's page does not link to SixthSense
 * Mann's page makes zero references to SixthSense or "Sixth Sense"

Please provide evidence supporting your side. --Pchov (talk) 04:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I've decided to severely modify this article and remove all references for Steve Mann. Before anyone reverts the edit, please leave a comment on this discussion page. Pchov (talk) 17:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * So why haven't you done so yet? I read a small article about Pranav Mistry and his work and came here to read more only to find that the page did not even mention Pranav Mistry or SixthSense (as I read of it elsewhere) at all. I think some person(s) may be trying to establish that SixthSense is not an original idea and that this TelePointer thing was the real original idea. If that is true, the smartest and easiest solution is to create a new article called TelePointer and include a link to that in the SixthSense page -something like "precursors - see TelePointer". I'm going to revert the page to an earlier article as since I think this article specifically means to be about the work of Mr Mistry.Gomez3000adams (talk) 15:38, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Mann's Telepointer and Mistry's WuW
Mann's device combined a laser-based projector + camera, and the laser projector did vector graphics (text, symbols, patterns, etc.) rather than raster graphics because that gave infinite depth of focus (being able to project patterns onto 3D objects not just flat screens). Mann's projector was called an "aremac" (camera spelled backwards) and some versions were headworn and some were neckworn. Pranav Mistry never called his Sixth Sense. He called it WUW (Wear U World) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.233.63 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 10 October 2013‎
 * Mistry's website clearly refers to the device pictured in the article as "the SixthSense prototype", at some length. Is there a distinction I'm missing? (Do both Mann and Mistry consider Aremac and WUW to be examples of a generic "SixthSense device"?) --McGeddon (talk) 17:28, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Mann's and Mistry's websites both refer to these devices as Sixth Sense. See for example, http://wearcam.org/6ense.htm

However, websites themselves are not necessarily credible sources. So perhaps consider the physical invention (neckworn pendant with projector + camera) and the "Sixth Sense" metaphor for wearable computing, as separate contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.233.63 (talk) 03:02, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Origin of the "Sixth Sense" metaphor
Separately consider the: (1) invention of the actual device (Mann's Telepointer versus Pranav's WuW), and (2) the origin of "Sixth Sense" as a metaphor for these wearable computing devices and the digital data as an additional "extra sense" (e.g. 6th sense):

The "Sixth Sense" metaphor for the digital layer of wearable computing appears to also originate from Mann: [later wrote] "prove I had coined the term"... "Sixth Sense" to describe it, also sometime before 2001; See "Cyborg: Digital Destiny and Human Possibility in the Age of the Wearable Computer", Steve Mann with Hal Niedzviecki, ISBN 0385658257 (Hardcover), Random House Inc, 304 pages, 2001, and "An Anatomy of the New Bionic Senses" [Hardcover], by James Geary, 2002, 214pp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.233.63 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 10 October 2013‎

Academic integrity
There are two key concerns with Mistry's contribution to SixthSense: (1) failure to cite the gesture-based wearable computing work of Mann, which occurred in the same lab (MIT Media Lab) more than 10 years earlier. (2) misrepresentation in the video demo. Despite wearing the device during the presentation, Professor Maes did not give a live demonstration of the technology. During the talk, she had emphasized repeatedly that the SixthSense technology was a work in progress, however it was never clarified whether the video demos were showing real working prototypes or merely made-up examples for illustrating the concept. This concern was expressed by M. C. Elish, "One relatively famous video to emerge from the Media Lab is Pranav Mistry’s original Sixth Sense video demo.... the video demo is misleading... raising the question of ethically responsible communication of research... misconstrue the reality of a technology." Elish, M. C. (2011, January). Responsible storytelling: communicating research in video demos. In Proceedings of the fifth international conference on Tangible, embedded, and embodied interaction (pp. 25-28). ACM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.212.27.186 (talk) 18:48, 16 June 2015 (UTC)