Talk:Siyal (caste)

Siyal ko q dal raha hai tu apna camar likh na
Camar aur siyal alag caste hai pata nehi hai kya? Aur delete nehi karega to article ko dekh lenge... Sudhansu7 (talk) 12:34, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

==  siyal caste khujuria

) 15:03, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete article
Misleading information shows so sial (siyal) community want to delete article. Sudhansu7 (talk) 14:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Ram kishna
Siyal cast khujuria 2409:40E2:1000:C7FC:71CE:6144:D1E4:67BB (talk) 03:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Siyal and chamar two different caste
Some people said they are sub-caste of Chamár, but the more general view is that they are an entirely distinct group — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:40E2:2B:C0FB:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 06:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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Ramachbehera1 (talk) 05:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC) Siyal and chamar are two different caste. That was proved on |(1)website-Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Research and Training Institute (SCSTRTI), Odisha         (2) Singh, K.S.: People of India: Odisha (2 pts), 1992, by the Anthropological Survey of India     (3) The Scheduled Caste Population in Odisha book                (4) Orissa (India). Tribal Research Bureau: Adibasi, 1969             (5) Alte, I.D.: Rural Employment of Scheduled Castes, 1992 (6) Pati, R.N.: Family Planning, 2008

This source can't eligible this article.
@r Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

I read this all source but this can't eligible this content.
I read this all source but this can't eligible this content. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Please you read this source and edit this content. Siyal and chamar are two different caste.
Please you read this source and edit this content. Siyal and chamar are two different caste Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 14:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * (1)Singh, K.S.: People of India: Odisha (2 pts.) (1992)                                 (2)The Scheduled Caste Population in Odisha book                                          (3) Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Research and Training Institute (SCSTRTI), Odisha                                         (4) Ramachbehera1 (talk) 13:42, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Ramachbehera1 (talk) 05:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I want please delate Chamar word in this article. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 07:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Please unblock this article. This article was totally wrong. The Constitution ( Scheduled Caste) Order Of 1950 odisha caste list serial number -18 -chamar caste and 86- siyal caste. they are two different caste please deleted chamar and chamar releted theory in this article.
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NotAGenious (talk) 07:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

I want delate Chamar word in this article.
This is a wrong theory. The article was wrong Siyal and Chamar are two different caste. Siyal is a schedule caste community which was found only odisha. Some people sprade this propaganda siyal and chamar are one caste. This all source are not provide this article siyal and chamar one caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 07:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I read this all source please you read and change this article. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 07:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ramachbehera1: If you have a peer-reviewed, reliable source that states Siyal and Chamar are two different castes or something similar, please make an edit request with the same. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Jeraxmoira * The Constitution (Scheduled caste) Order of 1950 Book
 * please read this Book  page number 167 and 168.
 * Page number 167 odisha caste serial list 18 - Chamar caste and page number 168 serial number 86-Siyal caste. This book proved siyal and chamar two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 08:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Please see . Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 09:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Jeraxmoira I read this book. please you read and change the article. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 10:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/CONSTITUTION%20(SC)%20ORDER%201950%20dated%2010081950.pdf Ramachbehera1 (talk) 10:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a wrong theory. The article was wrong Siyal and Chamar are two different caste. Siyal is a schedule caste community which was found only odisha. Some people sprade this propaganda siyal and chamar are one caste. This all source are not provide this article siyal and chamar one caste.
 * https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/CONSTITUTION%20(SC)%20ORDER%201950%20dated%2010081950.pdf
 * Ramachbehera1 (talk) 10:26, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This Book page number 168 and 167 was proved siyal and Chamar two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 10:28, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ramachbehera1: The government source is dated 1950 and the other one is dated 1969. If you have a more recent reliable source, that would help resolve this dispute. Please stop creating new sections for the same discussion. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Jeraxmoira https://stsc.odisha.gov.in/sites/default/files/2020-02/ScheduledCast_List.pdf                          2017 recent reliable source, provide siyal and Chamar two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 13:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * https://stsc.odisha.gov.in/sites/default/files/2020-02/ScheduledCast_List.pdf                          2020 recent reliable source. This source is proved siyal and Chamar two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 13:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * List number -19 was Chamar caste and list number -86 was Siyal caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 13:26, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Delate Chamar word in Siyal caste article
Ramachbehera1 (talk) 13:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * https://stsc.odisha.gov.in/sites/default/files/2020-02/ScheduledCast_List.pdf                                2020 Govt reliable source this is proved siyal and Chamar two different caste. List number 19 was Chamar and Chamar subcaste, List number 86 was siyal and siyal subcaste.

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Ramachbehera1 (talk) 14:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC) Please delete Chamar word on Siyal caste article. *https://stsc.odisha.gov.in/sites/default/files/2020-02/ScheduledCast_List.pdf                2020 recent Government reliable source This source List number -19 was Chamar and Chamar Subcaste, List -86 was Siyal and Siyal subcaste, This source is provided Chamar and Siyal two different caste.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  (talk | contribs) 14:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Siyal Caste work in this article wrong theory.
Siyal caste major occupation/Work was Toddy Tapping, Cultivation, Wage.There are can't be work palm-leaf mat or basket makers by profession .This reliable source provide that:-https://www.scstrti.in/index.php/communities/sc-communities/108-sc-communities/415-siyal Ramachbehera1 (talk) 08:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)


 * It is an institute's website. Please share a peer reviewed source. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 09:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This is not Institute website.This is Odisha government Schedule caste and Schedule tribe research Institute. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 10:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Article reliable source number 5and 6 was not eligible for this article. This reliable source describe a another topic and in this article wrote a another topic this is totally wrong. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 10:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅. To add what you have written above would require a published reliable source, not the research institute's website. If you still want another reviewer's feedback on this, you can make a edit request. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)