Talk:Skeletor

Is this true?
The following paragraph on the current page seems a little... odd. Is this actually true?


 * In another famous episode called "Grayskull party 12 - Stumpy's revenge" Skeletor actually appears at a office of a large international firm and is seen performing routine secretarial work such as typing and organising the mail! By the end of the episode through a sad and lonely Skeletor is banished from castle Grayskull because of appaling coffee making technique. Both the balding head and some of the neck can be seen although usually obscured by a rather large bag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.255.83 (talk) 13:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

The danger of trivia sections
My concern is that allowing LOST, The Simpsons, The Sopranos or whatever to comment on each article by way of trivia sections massively exaggerates their importance. This is why not even the most specialized encyclopedia imaginable (think of a bird watching encyclopedia, for instance), if it wants to be serious, will include arbitrary pop culture references that are seriously dependent on the time the article was written. The idea is to write timeless articles, not date them with arbitrary references. PointDread (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Contradictions in Article
First off I'd like to say I found this an impressive read. However, there appear to be a couple contradictions that seem to need clarification. Has he ever had ears, or has he never had ears? Is the movie the only instance in which he has had eyes? I don't feel as though I have those answers definitively after reading the section. Although I was a fan back in the day, I'm clearly not the expert on the subject needed to clear up these contradictions, I'm going to flag this area in an attempt to get some clarification from an expert. Thanks! Theredcomet2000 04:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * In the 4th paragraph of "The Question of Skeletor's Head" it says "All versions of Skeletor (apart from the 1987 film) depict him as having clearly empty eye sockets, sometimes with either permanently or intermittently visible glowing points of scarlet energy instead of actual biological eyes." However, those sure look like eyeballs looking at me from the Skeletor picture under "The New Adventures of He-man!"  If those aren't eyes, what are they?  Is that perhaps a misleading image?
 * Also, in the 3rd paragraph of the "Skeletor's Head" section, it states "The two first "New Adventures" minicomics, The New Adventure and Skeletor's Journey briefly show the injured Skeletor without his cowl, the second showing him even with ears." There is also a reference[], but it appears this is the former comic, and not the latter which shows his ears?  Just two paragraphs later it says "Although Skeletor can clearly hear, he has never been depicted as having ears, even on the New Adventures toy."


 * Will you listen to yourself man? Does Skeletor have ears? In fact, the whole 'question over Skeletor's head? In which particular universe did you think this would be encyclopedia-worthy? Seriously? If you want to go and debate heatedly with other such fanboys, there are allocated bits of the Internet for you to do that. Wikipedia doesn't tolerate it. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 04:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: In the series, "The New Adventures of He-Man", Skeletor DOES have eyes for a portion of the series near the beginning. However, this was soon changed to red glowing eyes.** (24.12.220.2 00:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC))

Thulsa Doom/General Klytus
Note that the original version of the Kull character Thulsa Doom was a skull-faced sorcerer. Coincidence? I think not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.147.140.206 (talk • contribs) 02:16, September 29, 2005.


 * Note how in the 1980 movie Flash Gordon, Flash looks a whole lot like He-Man and General Klytus looks so very much like Skeletor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.69 (talk • contribs) 23:10, July 1, 2006.

Penny Arcade
Image:Penny Arcade comic-20051216h.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nrcprm2026 (talk • contribs) 02:24, January 24, 2006.

Long Article
Article is disturbingly long and detailed, longer than many country's wiki pages. Trimming suggested. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Semiquaver (talk • contribs) 19:40, January 25, 2006.


 * Doesn't that tell you that Skeletor is more important than countries like Burkino Faso? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.83.70.7 (talk • contribs) 12:59, February 6, 2006.


 * I've noticed it needs a lot of touching up too. Run on sentences and the like. Hanzolot 05:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Power Sword
I thought that Skeletor's intitial motivation for fighting He-man was that he, like He-man, possessed a power sword, which combine with He-man's would be the key to opening Gray-Skull. This is why the action figures came with matching power swords that fit together. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.109.248.114 (talk • contribs) 20:59, March 12, 2006.

MOTU saw several retcons over the years, this story appeared as one of them but was taken out later. It's mentioned on the He-man wiki page. 68.113.46.114 07:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The Tale of Teela Mini-comic
I always thought that, originally, the implication in The Tale of Teela was that, in a way, Skeletor was Teela's father. Or as close as she was going to get. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.69 (talk • contribs) 19:03, July 31, 2006.

Skull Mask
Is it at all possible that Skeletor is wearing a skull mask rather than being a hugely buff male with a skull for a head? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neopeius (talk • contribs) 21:03, August 5, 2006.
 * Um, no. There has never been any indication of thise whatsoever. Sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Unused Backstory
In an issue of the magazine Starlog, can't remember the issue but it was 1982, the original backstory was Beastman was the evil king and Castle Greyskull was his fortress maned by "Skeletors" his evil minions. I realize this never made it to production, but was an early concept mentioned in a "What's new in toys" type article before the release of the line. If I can find the issue I'll state the number, I don't think it needs to be added to the article, but I wanted to share it here.Davidac18643 05:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

That should go in under the development of the character, fans would want to know that. Makes sense with the history of massed skeleton warriors in Ray Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts and Dungeons & Dragons. Kaecyy (talk) 14:53, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Apperance in Adult Swims Robot Chicken
This should be mentioned because in at least the modern culture seciton because its relavent. He appears in more then 1 episode also. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.166.49.31 (talk • contribs) 17:59, Novemver 1, 2006.

Status: Alive?
This made me laugh hysterically. How can he be considered alive? He's a) a cartoon character and b) a skull! Mattl 22:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but in the context of the storyline he is yet to be killed off. No versions of He-Man have seen Skeletor destroyed and so he is "alive." He might be undead but he's still alive in the context of the story.

Anon

Filmation>history>Snake Mountain
Where has it been suggested that Snake Mountain was built by Skeletor?


 * A character in the filmation episode "Golden Disks of Knowledge" states that Skeletor used the Golden Disks of Knowledge to build Snake Mountain and that he built Snake Mountain to conceal these disks.--BruceGrubb (talk) 10:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Chronology
I think that the Minicomic section should precede the cartoon section. The Minicomics were the first to establish a story line, not only about Skeletor but about the Masters of the Universe.

Also I feel that the previous picture of Skeletor on this throne of bones was more appropriate that the current choice, (8/11/07).

Skeletor's Death in the Film
Who put the 'citation needed' tag there?

It's *obviously* inspired by Return of the Jedi! Nobody could watch the two films and not suspect it. Gunstar hero 20:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Unless someone else said it, it's original research. Citing sources is very important to Wikipedia.70.58.64.149 23:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

MC Skeletor
The entry reading (at last edit): "* Popular Nerdcore rapper Jake Woods has taken on a side project under the name "MC Skeletor", with Jaylyn Coffin, another popular Nerdcore rapper, as his producer "Evil-Lyn" . Their work, ostensibly by the "actual" Skeletor and Evil-Lyn, is mostly parody in nature." is not intended as spam or advertising. The section on Skeletor in popular culture should well include this information, as Jake Woods' "MC Skeletor" persona is very much a use of Skeletor in popular culture. I am not Jake Woods, nor do I even know him (although, in the interest of full disclosure, I will admit to enjoying his music); rather, I assumed a popular culture reference such as this warranted citation. Perhaps it is the linking of outside media (despite a song and a comic strip also being linked) which causes this inclusion to be regarded as advertisement? If so, I imagine the citation of sources (the two artists' websites) could be removed, despite such a removal causing the information to be without proper citation.

Again, this inclusion was not meant as advertisement or promotion, nor am I affiliated in any way with Jake Woods, Jaylyn Coffin, MySpace, or any agents thereof. I do believe this information has as much necessity in the section in question as the Penny Arcade strip, or the Theocracy song. 70.58.64.149 20:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Replaced, minus references which could be construed as advertising.The Phantom Editor 23:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Other Media: Should mention comedy routines by Jake Johannsen, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSvPd7s0290 "My power is beyond your understanding." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.116.101 (talk) 16:08, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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History>Filmation
I don't believe "Infinita" has ever been mentioned in the Filmation series by the Sorceress or anyone else. Furthermore, it was never established that Skeletor actually "rules" the dark side of Eternia.

While Skeletor was a pupil of Hordak, it is not clear in the Filmation rendition of Masters Of The Universe, that Skeletor learned "black magic" from Hordak. In fact, in an episode of She-Ra, Princess Of Power, Hordak had once told Shadow Weaver that his preference science over magic.

Skeletor was a member of the Horde, but it has never been established that he was "second-in-command." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.146.112.66 (talk) 04:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

First Image
Why was the first image of Skeletor in Whispering Woods selected over the previous image with Skeletor on his distinct Throne of Bone? A poor choice was made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.224.204 (talk) 22:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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St Skeletor's Day
What exactly is wrong with this section? It's even fully referenced.

St. Skeletor's Day is a non-commercial alternative to St. Valentine's Day and is held on February 15th. People do exactly as they would have done anyway on this day, as if were it not a special day.

The observance was invented by comedian Richard Herring in 1998 and has been celebrated worldwide every year since.

Wallsy (talk) 09:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * it's been removed from Antivalentinism as well. how come? it's a legitimate festival. 81.110.252.178 (talk) 12:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Skeletor
I'm a bit confused by the given pronunciation of Skeletor as /ˈskɛlɪtər/. I would have thought it was /'skɛlətɔɹ/, i.e. with the second syllable unstressed rather than the third one, so is there any reference for this, or supporting or dissenting opinions? --Susurrus (talk) 09:57, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Someone got it seriously wrong (Skeliter? Reminds me of the German dub.) and it went undetected. It starts off same as skeleton (for obvious reasons), except that the last syllable has the usual MOTU -or (Stinkor, Rattlor, Spydor, Gwildor), with a long O. Anyone who has actually watched the cartoon cannot argue with the IPA. PointDread (talk) 11:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

The whole head issue
I removed it, in short. Wikipedia is not for fan speculation or essays. There were no reliable sources, and as such constituted original research (specifically WP:SYNTH). If sources can be provided to demonstrate that this is notable in any real-world sense then please add sources and restore. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You know, for a guy who gets his jollies demeaning "fanboys" and questioning the importance of this article in an encyclopedia, you seem to spend an awful lot of time editing here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.155.57 (talk) 00:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * That is a non sequitur. Besides which, I have not demeaned any "fanboys", as you put it, and I suggest you read WP:CIVIL. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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Elmer McCurdy connection
According to the Netflix series The Toys That Made Us (Season 1, Episode 3 - "He-Man"), the original inspiration for the Skeletor character was an encounter Mark Taylor had with the mummified corpse of Elmer McCurdy at The Pike amusement park. This should be mentioned somewhere in the article.-Schnurrbart (talk) 04:44, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

See also The unbelievable true story of the real body found in a California funhouse Rklawton (talk) 16:27, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Wait wat
Wait seriously? Aw no man. Don't do this to my boy Skeletor. "In Justice League vs. the Fatal Five, Batman uses Skeletor's name as a derogative nickname for Mano." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgbisafterme (talk • contribs) 23:46, 22 August 2020 (UTC)