Talk:Skibidi Toilet/Archive 1

Doesn't this draft already exist?
Draft:Skibidi toilet 🌶️Jalapeño🌶️ Don't click this link! 18:04, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


 * look i think they should add more stuff Flopybunny (talk) 02:46, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * There still a lot of information to be gained from the listed sources. Why not contribute? :D Ca talk to me! 07:41, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If there's more stuff to be added, then add it yourself. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 17:51, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * yaeh I dont wont to either 50.185.25.65 (talk) 13:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Skibidi toilet is a toilet and a head! Made by daqak!!?boom@JalapeñoHong Kong 2A02:C7C:FA06:4C00:D4B4:7F8A:E9B6:28C (talk) 16:17, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know what it is. That was not the topic. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 17:51, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Does this really need a page?
I get that we don’t have a consensus on proving the notability of internet memes, but the lack of an evident lasting impact and consistent reporting seems to lean towards this not being inherently notable. While the sources aren’t unreliable per se, they are primarily fluff pieces devoted to padding out their respective publications that basically boil down to “hey, check out this meme!” and a bunch of links.

There’s already minor edit warring and vandalism by IP editors, and I just don’t really think that’s worth keeping a page with dubious notability up. Paragon Deku (talk) 04:30, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Feel free to WP:AfD it if you think there is notability issues. As the creator of this article, I thought this draft easily met WP:GNG, so I expanded it and sent to mainspace. However this is just an internet meme; I place less burden of notability to uncontroversial topics because there is little room for NPOV issues to arise. Ca talk to me! 08:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_viral_videos
 * They should be under viral videos. There shall be no favouritism or drama or we'll get slippery slope arguments about other memes getting their own pages. It is not necessary to be trigger happy yet, ultimately all memes could end up on other wikis but it all started with "kilroy was here" and we're stuck with this mess.
 * Once it's established and made an impact on people and culture long enough then it could be notable enough for it's own entry in it's own right. 81.102.26.118 (talk) 15:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Paragon Deku Yeah, I agree, the dignity and reputation of Wikipedia is damaged by this article. This article is just bullshit trash. I remember a page called "fandom", where every game had its Wikipedia interface-based Wiki, exactly like wikipedia, but exclusivly for games. This articles should be there, and not in Wikipedia. Still, this is just an opinion and I understand that there are many articles of games and videogames characters, but the fact thar this shit is about Human toilets simply creates a sense of disgust all over my body, and the pain is worse when I remember that it has its own article in Wikipedia. Gabriel A. Álvarez N. (talk) 04:24, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * In terms of notability, the article already mentions that for a month the series was the most viewed in the entire world. So it certainly is notable, however your other concerns are certainly interesting. Panamitsu (talk) 04:33, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * But then, we should create an article of every single video of any relevant youtuber. Gabriel A. Álvarez N. (talk) 14:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The success of Skibidi Toilet is far from getting diminished. Every new Skibidi Toilet video is still getting 30-40M views. It has created a large enough impact on everyone and even created some controversies(e.g. the Copyright Strikes). So I think it is notable enough and is distinguished from other viral videos. BitByte10 (talk) 03:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Clearly meets GNG for me. Skyshifter  talk  11:34, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * In what way? The reporting only creates a presumption of notability, not a guarantee. Per WP:LASTING, I would argue that this is only demonstrably a flash in the pan without sustained notability. Paragon Deku (talk) 11:46, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Paragon Deku Except this isn't an event? Ca talk to me! 11:49, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Barring specific consensus based guidelines for memes, events are the best way to describe them as cultural moments. Meme reporting tends to act similarly to news reporting, and unless there’s a demonstrable sustained amount of reporting, it seem hard to justify it more as a KnowYourMeme style page. Paragon Deku (talk) 11:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a web series. Skyshifter   talk  17:38, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A web series whose only claim to notability is as a trend. 75.9.245.130 (talk) 19:41, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A web series that received significant coverage on multiple reliable and independent sources. Skyshifter   talk  20:05, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think any more discussion here would be productive. I recommend WP:AfD. Ca talk to me! 22:58, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Skbidi toilet is a original Shitpost i dont think its good idea to have it on the website because how hard it is to maturely document it without Vandals. Jeob123a (talk) 11:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

The article sounds really unofficial
It's like a child wrote this 188.172.111.190 (talk) 22:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Please provide constructive criticism by pointing to specific parts that may be improved. Ca talk to me! 09:38, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * e.g. the sentence "Episodes often feature Skibidi Toilets attacking the character that the viewer looks in the perspective of." 2A00:23C5:FE56:6C01:8926:A11A:50F5:B1F3 (talk) 03:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ca talk to me!  11:25, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Child wouldn't write this because this page has atleast 1,000 Totallyepicgamer (talk) 22:18, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * 1,000 words Totallyepicgamer (talk) 22:19, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You yourself are a child, proving my point. Equinox ◑ 16:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Article missing origin of ”skibidi”
For someone who hasn’t seen the series, the article doesn’t explain where the name “skibidi toilet” comes from, specifically the “skibidi” part. It already mentions the 2 songs remixed but I think it would be worthwhile to add a line like “the name is one of the lyrics of the first song” or even something in the header paragraph like “the name comes from one of the lyrics of the theme song of the skibidi toilets” Hexbugman213 (talk) 05:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't think it would be necessary. At this point, it WILL get deleted, or maybe be shortened. I think there are too much unnecesary pages and we should focus on making the pages we really need. Flobeigor (talk) 11:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * i really need this page, though 2A00:1148:B0BA:16:F11B:27DC:48EA:F010 (talk) 12:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You need a page about skibidi toilet? Flobeigor (talk) 08:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ca talk to me!  07:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

the correct date
the correct date was Feb 7, 2023 Rhydian27474 (talk) 13:47, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * According to YouTube, the first short was posted on Feb 8. Can you elaborate? Ca talk to me!  11:21, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ca Mine said Feb 7. Look at the YouTube shorts and click the 3 dots. Google gives you the wrong answers. Rhydian27474 (talk) 18:02, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I just removed the specific date since there seems to be a discrepancy between two of us. I'll add it back once a reliable publication reports on the exact date. Ca talk to me!  09:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Edit request
Please make the following change to the article: 164.47.74.1 (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ I think, the request is not 100% clear. Shapeyness (talk) 22:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Inclusion of information about Male_07
Is the text The most notable of the Skibidi Toilet models (pictured in infobox) uses the head of a Civilian (Male_07) from Half-Life 2. suitable for inclusion within the article?

I am posting here because an information about the character model Male_07 has been added repeatedly by Sigehelmus, but was deleted by me and Jalapeño. Ca talk to me! 14:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Pinging involved editors User:Sigehelmus and User:Jalapeño


 * As for me, I do not believe this information warrants inclusion. The first two additions were removed because it lacked a source, which is a violation of the WP:Verifiability policy. This time a source was included, which do satisfy the policy. However, I still think it is undue for inclusion, because it is sourced only to a primary source, without a proof of relevance. WP:NOTEVERYTHING says that we shouldn't include every piece of information. I think that a secondary source is needed to prove relevance within the article. Also, claiming something "most notable", without a good reference is probably WP:editorializing. Ca talk to me! 14:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed, that is why I removed Sighelmus's edit. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 14:24, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I also removed this as excessive detail. I don't see the encyclopedic value, just seems like trivia. Shapeyness (talk) 09:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed, why would anyone actually reading an encyclopaedia care about what model in what game the head of the toilet is? 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 11:27, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Jalapeno's content removal
I have to admit: this isn't my best work on Wikipedia. But unfortunately I don't think how Jalapeno is trying to fix it is really better. I'll go diff by diff in chronological order and show my thoughts on it.

, with the edit summary YouTube can't be used as a source, and the USAToday source is a Q&A source. YouTube can be used as a source if a reputable outlet or person is the one that posted it, or in WP:ABOUTSELF fashion. Here, the YT link is to DaFuqBoom's own videos. While there are questions about WP:DUE, it at least verifies the text. Secondly, I am not sure how USAtoday being in a Q&A format makes it suddenly unreliable? It is just another way of writing the same prose, just mixing it up a little. Suboptimal sourcing should be tagged with, not met with deletion that leaves now-unsourced text.

, with the edit summary "opinion". There is no guideline that says opinion sources are automatically unreliable. WP:RSOPINION says opinion pieces should be used with care. However, I don't the Boston Globe piece is self-published. Even as an opinion piece, it is published in a reputable outlet, and I think for simple details like Date of Birth is fine.

, with the edit summary Newsweek is unreliable. Per consensus, this is not 100% true. WP:NEWSWEEK is only marginally reliable. I think for simple facts like this one, which is supported by another source other than newsweek, it is fine to be included.

, with the edit summary unencyclopedic content. I am not sure details about the series' production sourced to independent, reliable sources is unencyclopedic. It's not traditional for sure, but it's got be to be expected for an internet meme.

, with the edit summary A random Twitter account saying something shouldn't be added to an article. Yes, a random Twitter post gaining this much prominence is unusual, and it is not something I would include in an article in usual circumstances. However, nearly every source discussing this series in detail has mentioned this tweet in some form of another. As silly as it is, I believe it is WP:DUE for inclusion as it is a major subject that was discussed.

, with the edit summary "unencyclopedic". It is debatable. It depends on whether we consider the analysis to be WP:EXPERTSPS or not.

- removed citations for WP:BLP details.

and, with the edit summary Self-published and generally unreliable and self-published sources and content. This is the edit that confuses me the most. None of the removed sources seem to be self-published. A 2021 discussion on TubeFilter didn't yield anything conclusive. Maybe the amount that it is cited is WP:UNDUE, but none of the sources were ever deemed "generally unreliable". It's commentary about a silly internet meme. We don't need WP:MEDRES sort of sourcing.

In summary, I don't think this series of edits improved the article because it removed major reception and content sourced to in-context reliable sources and left a lot of unverified statements just hanging around. This is not to say this article is perfect, it needs improvement, but I don't think this is the correct approach.

Ca talk to me! 15:08, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Pinging


 * I don't get why the official YouTube blog was removed. Skyshifter   talk  16:30, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Not reading all that but someone tell me what was the edit? Totallyepicgamer (talk) 22:24, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

please speedy keep
please dont delete it 174.66.101.236 (talk) 18:31, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Why should it be kept? Because its “funny”? Atlantlc27Lol (talk) 18:43, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * They want to discuss the page about the Article and want to choose whether to keep it or not. If most choose to keep it, you don't worry. 47.234.198.142 (talk) 05:25, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * is there a vote thing 174.66.101.236 (talk) 15:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Not really. Discussion should be happening on the AfD page, not here, although you should read Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions before participating there. — SamX &#91;talk · contribs&#93; 15:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The subject doesn't have enough reliable sources in my opinion, the most reliable source is the Daily dot, which doesn't have a consensus. PilotIguess (talk) 18:41, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't be deleted because the purpose of Wikipedia is about everything including skibidi toilet Totallyepicgamer (talk) 22:22, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry if this sounds uncivil, but is that sarcasm? NotABlanker (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Expand the "Plot and characteristics" section. (A edit request.)
Its the 65th episode of skibidi toilet and this section looks shallow please expand it and. You forgot the titans, G-Toilet and the Upgraded Scientist toilet the Woman variants and along with other stuff. RaiaxUwUX3 (talk) 05:09, 18 October 2023 (UTC)


 * ❌ please provide a source. — Panamitsu (talk) 05:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * iirc, plot section do not require sources. Ca talk to me!  11:17, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm so incredibly skeptical that that is in itself notable and worth mentioning, but if you think it is, you sound well-versed in this material, and you should try your best to write something. Citing something someone else has written on it, rather than pulling from the video itself. Bruhpedia (talk) 07:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Just leaving an comment on here to say this
I was on TikTok scrolling and it says that “Skibidi toilet is over”, which was announced by its creator, DaFuq!?Boom!. I checked YouTube and there was no community post about this. Yes they are no reliable sources, but I only came here to say that this is obviously fake. Thank you. 2601:406:4200:8E90:A1F1:996A:8225:E97B (talk) 11:51, 29 October 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldschoollover24 (talk • contribs)

Should we add a gallery to this page?
It would be cool to show the creators talent. 76.119.85.254 (talk) 22:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * We unfortunately can't because the images in such a gallery would be copyrighted and Wikipedia can only use copyrighted media in very limited circumstances. — SamX &#91;talk · contribs&#93; 04:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * a shame 76.119.85.254 (talk) 23:24, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * But use non copyrighted images Totallyepicgamer (talk) 22:32, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Episode list?
Not an expert, but is an episode list noteworthy? MarioX974 (talk) 07:40, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Maybe a short season by season one can be added, but plot sections should at most be 700 words per MOS:PLOT. We don't narrate every part of a piece of fiction—that is better suited for other fan-focused wiki sites like Fandom or Imdb. Ca talk to me! 07:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

The page needs a character list
Needs a character list with descriptions on each character because it feels like adding it would make it more organized and also it tells what the powers they have and also because the article doesn't show all of the characters Totallyepicgamer (talk) 22:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Also someone make it because I don't know how to code and add it Totallyepicgamer (talk) 22:29, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * character lists aren't usually added in wikipedia. the character list has already been deleted since a few weeks ago as i remember. character lists would only be added in fandom (or wikia). Zombie Robby the Wikiman (talk) 09:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Well can you add it? Totallyepicgamer (talk) 14:37, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * well if you're asking me to add it, idk how to do it :moai:. if you're asking for the possibility for it to be added, im not too sure yet. Zombie Robby the Wikiman (talk) 10:24, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * well looks like i failed to do emoji again Zombie Robby the Wikiman (talk) 10:24, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

is this page really needed
ik its a big thing, but should it really have a wikipedia page? Sebbers10 (talk) 15:29, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * It's well sourced and clearly notable, yes. Alyo  (chat·edits) 15:30, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes.  Brachy 08  (Talk) 05:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Do we Really need this article?
Its about skibidi toilet I doubt we would Actually need it, It makes my brain rot every time is see skibidi toilet. Episeptum (talk) 18:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Who even did the speedy keep?! Tedmcbur (talk) 18:29, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Please see this discussion: Articles for deletion/Skibidi Toilet. Lots of editors came to that consensus. Alyo  (chat·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 21:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * what Episeptum (talk) 17:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:AFD Jothefiredragon (talk) 03:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * In the second nomination, the result was no consensus for deletion. Here is the link. Oldschoollover24  ( chat with me ) 19:14, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

why the hell is this articles existence so hotly contested???
it's got millions of views and subscribers...

i don't like it either, but just because it's "cringe" doesn't mean people shouldn't be able to easily educate themselves about this hot new trend that their kids love

Big Slosh (talk) 19:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I didn't even know this was a thing until last week and I’m trying to make sure my kids aren’t watching bad stuff. My son says it’s “cringe” too, but I’m still doing my research. These “Skibidi toilets” look extremely creepy to me, honestly, and I can’t see why my kids think this is so funny. So I’m glad this article is here so I could learn something, if only a little. 2603:900B:100:B79E:7176:13E8:911F:15C4 (talk) 00:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Y'all should change "a free Valve-published" to "a free-to-use Valve-published" and add a bit more content
Skidibi Skidibi Skidibi 2406:D501:F:DEB:0:0:0:A01D (talk) 05:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I am not sure what's the distinction between "free" and "free-to-use" is. But I did add more content. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  11:15, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * We many not allow edit for vandalism that against the Wikipedia rules. 47.234.198.142 (talk) 00:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * SUS 82.37.3.100 (talk) 18:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I think I just had a stroke.  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk  18:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Allow this page for editing.
allow this page for editing. Coginito (talk) 18:14, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Based on your edits, I don't know that that is smart. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure on that because edit wars would happen TheGreatestLuvofAll  ( chat with me ) 20:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Episode 67 swastika
I know this isn't really important, but I do feel like it should be mentioned that episode 67 features a skibidi toilet swastika appeared before being quickly removed by the creator and as caused significant talk amongst the community ￼ NotPowerpoint13 (talk) 10:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Do you have a reliable source discussing this? Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  11:05, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah https://www.reddit.com/r/skibiditoilet/comments/180mrf1/the_toilet_swastika_is_insane/ and also https://skibidi-toilet.fandom.com/wiki/Skibidi_toilet_67 NotPowerpoint13 (talk) 04:07, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A Reddit discussion thread and Fandom wiki page do not seem to be reliable sources sadly. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  09:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry i will try to find the original clip or find some better sourcing i will let you know if i find anything NotPowerpoint13 (talk) 05:50, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @NotPowerpoint13 To me, this seems like a minor misstep on Gerasimov's behalf, and I don't believe it is due for inclusion unless reputable media outlets have covered the event. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  06:14, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ok 82.46.56.47 (talk) 11:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Apparent error
This article says "", which conflicts the previous sentence which says the videos have gathered tens of billions. I don't have access to the source. Should it say 15.3 million videos? —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">Panamitsu (talk) 10:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  12:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking out for errors, but the previous sentence says youtube videos had over 65 billion views, not Tiktok shorts. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  10:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah but the difference is very extreme. I'd be shocked if the statement is correct. Do you have access to the reference? —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">Panamitsu (talk) 11:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The Washington Post article says:
 * "“Skibidi” videos have been viewed more than 65 billion times this year on YouTube alone, making it one of the biggest trends on the platform. On TikTok, videos with the hashtag “Skibidi Toilet” have been viewed more than 15.3 million times, and they’ve appeared in countless memes and videos on Instagram. DaFuq!?Boom! also has surpassed 36 million subscribers on YouTube, becoming one of the fastest-growing channels on the platform, at times outpacing MrBeast, YouTube’s biggest star."
 * I realize I way too closely paraphrased that paragraph.Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  12:03, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree that the figure seems inaccurate; I've sent a correction email to Washington Post since the sentence seems to actively contradict the number at this TikTok page. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  12:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

DaFuqBooms political input and abuse of copyright strikes
these topics should maybe be here even under Reception and influence MiaPoopy (talk) 08:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @MiaPoopy Do you have any sources? Abusing YouTube's copyright system is a very serious allegation and would require good sourcing. —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">Panamitsu (talk) 08:54, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @MiaPoopy Can you supply a clarification on what a political input is? Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  09:00, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

The copyright thing might be true, but there's no reliable sources talking about it (the one I linked is questionable). Skyshifter  talk  21:43, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

im crying
idc if this sounds unprofessional but oh my god why is there only ONE mention of half-life in this the whole thing uses half-life 2 assets why only mention it when G-Man is mentioned 179.173.208.137 (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @179.173.208.137 Because the article is based on reliable sources. If they do not mention this, neither do we. —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">Panamitsu (talk) 06:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

The use of a fan-art image
Is it really appropriate to use a fan-art image here to depict a character? If anyone knows if we have a relevant manual of style or policy, I would love to know. My instinct tells me that this isn't Wikipedia policy normally. Di (they-them) (talk) 05:05, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I am not sure if or not the wikipedia community allows that? But there is only illustration of work on one of the characters in one of the contents. TheGreatestLuvofAll  ( chat with me ) 06:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Someone put a fanart photo on this web File:Skibidi Toilet fan-art.jpg TheGreatestLuvofAll ( chat with me ) 23:56, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I worry that as the subject is copyrighted, the fan art infringes that copyright and should not be used per COM:FAN. —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">Panamitsu (talk) 06:41, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A deletion discussion should be opened at Commons. This is complicated by the fact that the original models used for the speakerman aren't DaFuqBoom's, and putting a Speaker on a human body isn't particularly a original concept, possibly making the concept fall under WP:TOO.
 * However, the illustration appears to be traced from here, making it a Commons:Commons:Derivative work. I am not awfully inclined in copyright so I think we should just leave it up to the folks at Commons Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  10:45, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The fact that it's traced directly makes it far more likely to be copyright infringement-- "...the original creator of the work must explicitly authorize the copy/ derivative work before it can be uploaded to Commons." I'm gonna go ahead and remove the image from en.wp for now. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think fan art is fine to illustrate articles (it's done on Wikipedias without fair use). The biggest thing here is the copyright. Skyshifter   talk  13:56, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes because commons do not tolerate fair use. TheGreatestLuvofAll  ( chat with me ) 15:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Gen Alpha?!
From the article: “Critics saw the series as Generation Alpha's first foray into internet culture, competing with the older Generation Z.“

What critics? Gerasimov is 25 years old, making him solidly in Gen Z. Thiebes (talk) 16:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * It's referring to who is consuming/spreading/reinterpreting the content, not just the one person making the videos. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)