Talk:Skilled Group

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

SKILLED Group → Skilled Group – Manual of Style/Trademarks: Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official". --RJFF (talk) 10:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Article titles on WP 'follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official"' therefore the article should be at Skilled Group. Zarcadia (talk) 21:26, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I support the above rationale. The move shouldn't even require a discussion, IMO - 76 Strat String da Broke da (talk) 23:48, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support as per above. Dicklyon (talk) 03:22, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This whole page is been written by Skilled's marketing department.
The whole page should be taken down.

Pborobokas (talk) 20:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Try CSD, PROD, or most likely AFD... — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 20:44, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Your request has been further discussed and I've decided to tag it for AfD on your behalf. Please comment on Articles for deletion/Skilled Group. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 20:57, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Labour hire concept
The labour hire concept has generated a great deal of concern from unions and political groups because of the ease "employees" can lose their entitlements. A lot of employees are under paid and powerless.

Pborobokas (talk) 20:55, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 20:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

An inquiry into labour hire may or may not have an affect on Skilled group and labour hire in general. The article does not seem to cover the down sides of labour hire and thus Skilled group at the moment. The inquiry into labour hire suggests there are down sides but it remains to be seen if Skilled group are instigated into any wrong doing. Of course if Skilled group is clean then it should also be stated. http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/chair-of-labour-hire-inquiry-announced/

Ugutuy (talk) 03:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Skilled Group isn't even mentioned, so it's useless in this article. Again, you appear to have an axe to grind with this organization, so you should exercise great caution.  Acroterion   (talk)   04:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Skilled is Based in Victoria Australia and Skilled was mentioned in the 4 corners program (ABC TV) that initiated this inquiry.

Ugutuy (talk) 04:14, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * You need references that specifically name and discuss Skilled Group in at least modest detail in the context of the inquiry, not extrapolation from an announcement about the industry as a whole.  Acroterion   (talk)   04:49, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

This is a talk page about Skilled group, i live in Australia and Labour hire is often in the media and the courts due to abuses as is Skilled group (in the courts).

Ugutuy (talk) 04:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Exactly: it's a talkpage for discussions about improvements to the article on Skilled Group, not about labour hire in general. It's also not a place for you to complain about the company.  Acroterion   (talk)   05:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2014
ASX announcements comes up as, This page cannot be found (Error 404). Request ASX announcements be removed.

K of the net (talk) 06:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

✅ Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 10:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2014
Request to remove ATIVO from external links. This looks to be a subsidiary of SKILLED but is not mentioned anywhere in the article, appears to be just another form of advertising from this “pimp” employer group.

K of the net 11:53, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ thank you! -- BZTMPS ★ ·  (talk?   contribs?)  19:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2014
Under "SEE ALSO"

It should have the link to "Human resources" inserted at the top of the list.

K of the net (talk) 01:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ❌ There's a link to the company website, and people can navigate wherever they like from there. -- Diannaa (talk) 05:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Brokering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_brokering

should also be included under see also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K of the net (talk • contribs) 17:46, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * From that article: Labour brokering is a form of outsourcing practiced in South Africa (and formerly practiced in Namibia. Bjelleklang -  talk 19:48, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Labour brokering
I recommend removal of the recently-added link to Labour brokering which I moved to the "See also" section on clerical grounds.

It should be removed because the topic concerns a practice in some African countries which are not practiced in Australia. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  20:32, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * They are one in the same and thus should stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.27.225.236 (talk) 20:57, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Further to the point, I don’t know why labour hire and labour brokering have different pages, they should be merged. Just because one part of the world call something a wheel and somewhere else call it a round thing. The fundamentals are the same. Skilled has global fingers that appear to be growing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.27.225.236 (talk) 21:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If you want to recommend that Labour hire and Labour brokering be merged, see WP:MERGE for the appropriate process to go through. Such a discussion is outside the scope of this discussion page.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  21:19, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Moved from article
In the past SKILLED group has demonstrated an overly close relationship with the unions as this case in the federal court bears out.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/unions_workers_in_gas_industry_8eQvxRFS09YZS1E4CqxGlL

http://www.fairwork.gov.au/ArticleDocuments/2234/Fair-Work-Ombudsman-v-OMS.pdf.aspx?Embed=Y

The text above was added to the article by at 00:40, 2 June 2014 with [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Skilled_Group&diff=611161151&oldid=602163132 this edit]. I removed it a few minutes later with [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Skilled_Group&diff=next&oldid=611161151 this edit]. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  01:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I removed the text from the article because it looks like a suggestion that we add a sentence describing the company's past relationship with unions, using the URLs provided as references. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  01:21, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Skilled group taken over
http://www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/skilled-group-swallowed-by-rival-programmed-maintenance-after-21-years-on-asx-20150624-ghvi3r

This is probably very bad news for workers.

News for Skilleeee (talk) 00:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2015
Skilled group was taken over by Programmed Maintenance in June 2015

http://www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/skilled-group-swallowed-by-rival-programmed-maintenance-after-21-years-on-asx-20150624-ghvi3r

News for Skilleeee (talk) 00:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2015
Change ASX code from SKE to PRG

http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/delistedCompanies.do

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20151001/pdf/431s8x6g4nfjc2.pdf

http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/company.do#!/PRG

change of board

Mr Bruce Brook	Non Exec. Chairman Mr Chris Sutherland	Managing Director Ms Andrea Grant	Non Exec. Director Mr Robert McKinnon	Non Exec. Director Ms Emma Stein	Non Exec. Director Mr Jonathan Whittle	Non Exec. Director Mr Stephen Leach	CFO

http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/company.do#!/PRG/details

A Pizzon Lamb (talk) 00:08, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ I changed the ASX. According to the official Skilled Group website, Vickki McFadden is still the Chairman, but Angus McKay is now the CEO.  I updated the infobox with the new CEO and added a citation.  I think the board members that you quoted are from Programmed Maintenance, which wouldn't really be applicable here.  I could be wrong, but I'd rather go by what the official website says. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:47, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Please update board to PRG as per ASX site. A Pizzon Lamb (talk) 05:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess you're right. OK, thanks for the link.  I'm not sure, but I don't think we usually list the entire board.  Ford Motor Company and HSBC don't, so I didn't here.  I don't edit these kinds of articles all that often.  I think someone who knows this corporation better should be doing the editing, but there doesn't seem to be anyone else around. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Sun safe or cover up tattoo policy ?
Because Skilled group employee a lot of people that have a high rate of wearing tattoos with sometimes quite antisocial statements, it appears this has had more than a large bearing on their decision to inforce mandatory wearing of long sleeves and long pants under the pretense of occupation health and safety.

A Pizzon Lamb (talk) 01:01, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2015
request unprotect page so as it can be updated.

A Pizzon Lamb (talk) 23:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

A Pizzon Lamb (talk) 23:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I apologize for not taking care of outstanding requests earlier, but requests of this kind should go to the requests for page protection noticeboard. I don't think this article will ever be unprotected, however. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:51, 4 November 2015 (UTC)