Talk:Skippy Williams

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Right folks, were there two contemporary tenor sax players known as Skippy Williams? Most sources I've come across refer to the same person changing his name from Elmer to Elbert and vice versa throughout his career. And that is the profile I have reflected in the article.

However, I have just come across the |allmusic biography which only coincides on two points (Fletcher Henderson & Lucky Millinder). Apart from those two, there are no coinciding items at all. Has anyone else come across this dilemma? Feedback? --Technopat (talk) 11:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * An interview with Dan Morgenstern for the Smithsonian Oral History refers to the Ellington band Skippy Williams as the brother of Pinky Williams.--Technopat (talk) 11:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Leonard Feather and Ira Gitler's Biographical Encyclopedia of Jazz has Elmer A. Williams coincide with the allmusic article above and make no mention of this Williams being known as "Skippy". Their book mentions Skippy Williams - in passing (playing with Frankie Dunlop in 1954)- but have no actual section on him. So this leaves us with the need for a disambig. to avoid confusion :) between the two guys... Feedback? --Technopat (talk) 11:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Elmer "Skippy" Williams is credited with the tenor solo on "Stompin' at the Savoy" with Chick Webb on the album Rhythm Man 1931-1934 1992 CD (HEP HEPCD1023). --Technopat (talk) 15:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Bingo! DEMS gives the following - from almost 30 years ago!: So this clarifies things? --Technopat (talk) 19:00, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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Although a legitimate source is noted for the claim that Williams played on the Haley recordings, this is incorrect information as multiple non-trivial sources (I added two but I could literally provide 100 including discography information published on LP and CD issues of the recordings) show it's Joey d'Ambrosio (aka Joey Ambrose). As d'Ambrosio is still alive as of March 2017 (and still performing), WP:BLP actually applies here. I didn't remove the claim, but I did add information that it is incorrect. 136.159.160.6 (talk) 22:06, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I further adjusted the wording to state that it is outright false. A fanzine dedicated to Ellington does not trump officially sanctioned biographies, one of which was written by Bill Haley's own son. Not to mention the fact official reissue of the original Rock Around the Clock album credit Ambrose, not this guy. It is possible that maybe Williams worked on Joe Turner's original version of Shake Rattle and Roll but I'll let others make that determination. 23skidoo (talk) 13:57, 17 April 2018 (UTC)