Talk:Sky High (2005 film)/Archive 1

Powerless? Whcih powers?
Thee's no clue or hint to know the powers of the parents of the bus driver? Was stitches fully powerless?Undead Herle King (talk) 07:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

This is crap
Sorry, I got addicted to the phrase after Jimbo used it referring to Bill Gates and Jane Fonda. Seriously, though, it is. Much of the article is speculation. "Presumably"? "Evidently"? "Likely"? "Apparently"? And worse of all..."Speculatively"? The plot summary has a lot of potential but is highly unencyclopedic. Who decides which quotes are memorable and which aren't? And the trivia section is definitely unencyclopedic. In short, this article is in need of a lot of cleanup. Johnleemk | Talk 14:46, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

In particular there was no indication that I could see in the movie that saving the day would in any way lead to a change in how "Hero Support" was educated. In fact The Commander complements All-American Boy on the great job he's been doing and tells him to keep it up. DavidJohns 08:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't just moan about it, be bold and change it yourself. Jacobshaven3 10:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The article has been cleaned up a bit since October 15, 2005.  Shannernanner   08:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Picture not working
The picture is not working. 130.111.98.131 18:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
 * The image server is down for maintenance. When it comes back, images should load faster than ever. Johnleemk | Talk 19:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Lash & Speed = Flash & Elongated Man
Of course the powers of Lash can be based on Mr. Fantastic (or Plastic Man), and the powers of Speed can be based on every speedster in superherodom (the various flashes, Quicksilver, Whizzer...) but only one speedster and one elastic hero were close friends and teamed-up frequently. In the movie Lash and Speed always appear together, it's obvious they are more close friends to each other than to the other members of the Royal Pain team, and they team-up in the "save the citicen", so I think you may consider them together when looking for references. And when you consider Lash and Speed together they only can be based on Flash II and the Elongated Man. Elongated Man (Ralph Dinby) was introduced in the Flash comic (in Flash 112) and appeared in several issues of this series aiding the Flash (Barry Allen)in his cases and in his own stories in a backup feature, he and Barry Allen were close friends and was Barry who vouched for him to be accepted in the JLA.

Based On
The entries stating that 'Movie Character A is based upon Comic Book Character B' should have some backing, otherwise they should read 'Movie Character A has powers similar to those of Comic Book Character B', unless specific statements have been made by Disney to explain these items otherwise stated as fact.--RedKnight 21:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, why are "The Incredibles" characters used as references? Aren't they already influenced by existing comic super heroes? Saying that they influenced anything in Sky High seems redundant.AceWhatever 21:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Whatever happened to Wiki's quality standards, I seem to recall something about everything having to be sourced and referenced, fact's not truth and such. Unless a creative member of the film says something in a book or something you don't really have anything other than your opinion that any of these are based on anything. None of them seem to be based on anyone, they have the powers but not the backgrounds, Warren Peace for instance is said to be based on Ghost Rider, the Human Torch or Pyro. As well as every other pyrokinetic in any comic. What relation is there between him and any? Ghost Rider's powers are demonic based and aside from appearance (and even then hes missing the skull). Also the his fire never spreads past his arms as I recall, leaving the Human Torch out, and Pyro can't make fire only control. Sunspot, Magma and Sunfire don't really make good matches either. Rather I think all the characters powers are based on what fit the film, a cheerleader who is the entire squad, a hippie who can commune with nature, some people with loser powers that prove to be useful to go with the whole "we're all just people, super-people" thing. Also, who in their right mind thing thinks Will has any connection to Captain America who has no powers at all, there is a passing resemblance to Super-Man, the basic super hero with every power. Surprise that the main character who is super strong and can fly (quite possibly the two most common powers), he bares some resemblance to the idea of the every-man, or every-teenage-superpowered-man. 69.17.155.35 16:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Cyclops
The entry stating 'The boy who zaps Ice Girl’s behind uses a laser optic blast much like X-Man Cyclops' is not entirely correct. It is important to make the distinction that Cyclops optic blast is a force blast, not a laser or heat vision similar to Superman. I believe the scene is definitely a display of hot versus cold, so perhaps the relationship to Cyclops should be replaced by Superman.--RedKnight 21:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Missing part of the Synopsis?
Is there a missing part of the synopsis? The description of Will discovering his flight powers obviously compares the situation to discovering other abilities earlier, but there's no mention of said discovery. I haven't seen the movie yet, so I'm only guessing here.MythicFox 09:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Goofs
Could someone clean up the Goofs section, perhaps re-writing it so it's no longer a cut and paste of the 'Goofs' page over at the IMDB?--MythicFox 13:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It should also be wikified... like bold for the titles... Cbrown1023 14:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

CLEAN UP
Ok, now, this post is way too long. We have an entire character list for their powers, and an entire list for their links to comic roots. Is this necessary? Can't some of these be moved into seperate articles, or at least organised? Jacobshaven3 21:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

POWERS-CLEANUP
Could someone possible create a table for it, it just looks messy right now. Another possibility is to move the information to sub-pages. Cbrown1023 14:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Major cleanup needed
This article really needs some cleanup. It starts off ok, but then ballons out to a HUGE chunk of in-universe info useless in reality (see WP:WAF), most importantly lacks any section dealing with production, reception, cast comments etc (see WikiProject_Films/Style_guidelines) and ends it with a bunch of borderline OR (see WP:NOR). I appreciate the sheer mass of heart put into this effort, but this article would be IMHO 400% better if it was condensed to 40% of its length. How to do it better, see e.g. X-Men 3 or Star Wars, which have been explicitly flagged as "good articles". I don't expect anyone to make it THAT good, but this film definitely deserves better. Onomatopoeia 23:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I've cut down what I could instantly see needed to be donw (the two cast / character lists combined, like how done with the X-Men 3 article. I'll have a look soon in the trivia section to clean it up. Jacobshaven3 02:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Army of Darkness reference in Coach Boomer's name?
Since this film has at least one acknowledged in-joke relating to Lynda Carter, does anyone know if Bruce Campbell's character, Coach Boomer (or, to be more accurate, Campbell's casting as Boomer) might be a reference to his famed use of a boomstick as Ash? Might be worth mentioning. 23skidoo 15:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Could someone answer this?
Could someone please, please, please, please, PLEASE answer this: what is that song that plays at the beginning? I swear, it's starting to drive me INSANE.Hondasaregood 21:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Plot-holes wrong
The plot-holes section needs to be either changed, or completely removed. As none of them are plot-holes, or even mistakes in the movie.

"Uncle" is said by Stitches because Royal Pain is choking him, not because Royal Pain is his uncle. Uncle is a phrase akin to "I give up" when someone is causing you pain. It comes from "Say Uncle"

Gwen's "Father" is stitches in disguise.

And there are any NUMBER of reasons that Royal Pain did not build another pacifier including limited accessibility to parts, complexity of the machine, or simply a matter of pride and anger towards the Commander.

I thought that she didn't know how, those type of super devices tend to be difficult for even technopaths. Technically, she shouldn't have all of her memories from her past time as an adult, as she wanted to use it to raise hero's to be villains, which suggests without past memories. She would still be raised by an evil lunatic and brought up with knowledge about herself and would of known why she called a gun like thing the Pacifier, evil geniuses and all tend to repeat themselves. 69.17.155.35 21:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Sky High movie poster.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Rationale added to image article. Johnmc (talk) 09:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Cruft
I flagged this article as of WP:WAF. It contains a lot of in-universe cruft with little information. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 09:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Cut out much original research, provided refs and made the article much less crufty. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 12:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)