Talk:Slashing (crime)

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, I don't think you quite understand the reason for my PROD. Obviously, I am not denying the fact that slashing something in order to commit a criminal act exists. I am sure you can find many examples of people slashing other people or objects. However, the article by its very nature posits that "slashing", in it of itself, exists as a crime.

Allow me to elucidate my concern with some context. When we call something a "crime", that is nothing more than a classification of a certain action. In abstracto referring to the "crime of battery" for instance means we are referring to a certain typology of behaviors, collectively described, and mostly classified by its external effects on the world and other people (in the cases of material crimes, anyway). Those external effects are material hallmarks of a crime - for instance, the material hallmark of battery is unlawful contact with another. This describes a wide range of behaviours characterized by a select few elements that are constant in between them.

With that in mind, we must remember that a "crime" is not merely causing harm to another, or behaviour widely considered inappropriate or forbidden - it is a formal legal classification of an act. To slash someone's throat with intent to kill would be performing the factual act of slashing, yes, but the crime in this instance - taking into account intent and the material effect of this behaviour - would be murder, or an attempt thereof.

It is then crucial to separate acts that are in concreto elements of a criminal acts and the legal construction of crimes in abstracto. To slash someone is a crime, yes, but the crime we are talking about here might be assault, grievous bodily harm, murder. "Crime" can mean either a concrete act, as in the "crime" committed by Bob Whoever on the 26th of August 1996, or - the meaning that the article must use in its name in order to remain coherent - the abstract classification of behaviour.

Therefore, the question is - in order to meet verifiability - can we find sources that refer to the abstract classification of "slashing" as a criminal classification of behaviour? Not merely to a concrete act, not even as a means to commit another crime (indeed, when you say slashing (battery) - you are describing the crime of battery, not the "crime" of slashing!) - but as a crime on its own, which the article title and composition suggests is the case.

The answer is no. Therefore, the article must go. Slashing as a means to achieve specific crime can be included as sections in the relevant articles. This article, however, cannot justify its own existence. I hope you understand my point of view, I will likely be moving forward with an AfD in the near future.

EuanHolewicz432 (talk) 17:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I disagreed with the course of action, not with your objection to the content. Like stabbing, slashing is a notable concept and the article should not be deleted, but it could be improved through editing, and it could be moved to a more suitable page title (such as slashing which is currently just a redirect). SailingInABathTub (talk) 20:12, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 28 January 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 14:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Slashing (crime) → Slashing – Slashing is not explicitly a statutory offense; therefore this page should be moved to allow the content to focus on the action. SailingInABathTub (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose, but changed Slashing into a disambig page. Facts707 (talk) 07:53, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose It can also refer to slash fiction so I don't think there is a clear primary topic. I would oppose making it into a disambiguation on account of the fact that it can be added to slash. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:34, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No primary topic. I would, however, revert Slashing to redirect to Slash. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 2 February 2022 (UTC)