Talk:Slay Tracks: 1933–1969/Archive 1

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

GA nomination on hold
Please leave me a note when you've fixed the issues below, or if you have any problems. Here goes...


 * Do you know a specific release date?
 * Oddly enough, I have never actually seen a release date for this; there's even a discography in the back of the Pavement biography that lists its release date as "1989". --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 23:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The "Professional reviews" section of the infobox doesn't really need references, as the reviews by Option and Spin are noted again (and sourced) later in the article. If possible, can any other reviews be found?
 * ✅ on the first part. By the looks of it, Christgau's review is the only one to be found online. The vast majority of publications that have reviewed Slay Tracks are independent zines, which I thought wouldn't really be relevant in a "Professional reviews" section (though a few are in the Reception section). --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 23:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Whilst the EP is introduced as being titled "Slay Tracks (1933-1969)", it is only ever referred to as "Slay Tracks" in the article (apart from the start of the lead). If the (1933-1969) is part of the EP's name, then I think it should be noted every time the title is mentioned.  The easiest way to fix this, I think, would be to copy the article text into Microsoft Word (or equivalent), and replace all instances of "Slay Tracks" (as in, italic formatting ends there) with "Slay Tracks (1933-1969)"  I can do this for you if you have issues or if I'm making no sense :)
 * Slay Tracks is a legitimate shortening of the EP's title; it is similarly referred to as such in Perfect Sound Forever and All Music Guide. However, I included "(also referred to as Slay Tracks)" after the EP's title in the lead. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 00:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide  00:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * "The EP was released as a 7" vinyl record on the band's own Treble Kicker Records in 1989" - Might want to mention that Trelbe Kicker was a record label (for those of us who can't quite pick that up ourselves!)


 * "Though only 1000 copies of Slay Tracks were pressed" - Change "though" to "although", I think.


 * ""Box Elder", by English band The Wedding Present" - Wikilink for English, etc.


 * "Malkmus and Kannberg had first met during childhood[2] and had" - You need a comma before the ref.


 * "The songs the band played during this time were mostly covers, although many were original songs that would end up on Slay Tracks." - They mostly played covers, but many of the songs they played were originals? Seems rather contradictory.
 * ✅ But tell me if it needs further rewording.


 * "Malkmus recalled "It was pretty" - "recalls" is a better choice of word here, I think - AFAIK he said this circa 2004, when the book was published, right?


 * "The band decided to record at Young's studio due to their admiration of other local punk bands who had recorded there.[5]" - Can you give examples/names of some of these bands?


 * Any idea why they used pseudonyms?
 * When did The Wedding Present cover "Box Elder"?


 * "Slay Tracks shortly became a collector's item" --> "Shortly after, Slay Tracks became a collector's item"?


 * Ref 16 needs a title


 * "The track features fuzz effects..." - Just use "the song", as you refer to it elsewhere...


 * "Slay Tracks would later be included on the 1993 compilation Westing (By Musket & Sextant), along with several of Pavement's other early EPs and singles. Westing has sold 63,000 copies.[23]" - Short and stubby paragraph - you could expand it, or just merge with the one above...suggest expanding, if possible.
 * Can you get a ref/source for the track listing?
 * The information is available here, but it's in the information for the Westing compilation and a reference isn't usually necessary for track listings anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandt Luke Zorn (talk • contribs) 00:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Reviewed version:

Good luck, and leave me a note when you're done! Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide  ♫ 23:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review, I'll try to finish this up as quickly as possible. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 23:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Passed :) &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide  00:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Box Elder location
The few lines on "Box Elder" state that the location is Box Elder, Montana (which does exist) and cites a New York Times article making the same claim. However the lyrics clearly say "I'm gonna head, to Box Elder M.O." M.O being the state abbreviation for Missouri (Box Elder M.O. does not exist). Furthermore the Times article itself gives no reason as to why MT over MO nor mention that the lyric reads M.O. Since the actual location of the town has no bearing on the song's meaning should the article remain the same or be changed. The simplest change being "wanting to move to Box Elder, M.O." also removing the citation as the article seems to only be needed to back up the location as in Montana. Or are we just going to say fuck it and leave it at that?Peredur de Treemansville (talk) 07:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's a 2012 source confirming Malkmus really meant the location in Montana. My mind is blown after 20 years of thinking it was Box Elder, Missouri. ("Well-studied Pavement fans would note that the song Box Elder clearly refers to “Box Elder, MO” – suggesting the town is in Missouri, not Montana (whose two-letter post office code is MT).  “It was just a mistake by me,” he says."--Milowent • hasspoken  14:47, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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