Talk:Slim-fit pants

This article(the old one) was really excellent. Im sure it broke all sorts of protocol, but it really gave an excellent and concise explanation of what this is besides just a certain cut of pants. Don't you all think an article should tell something more then what one knows by reading the title? Sales strategies for global top 100 companies have been made over the silhouette of these pants versus the older more bulky jeans. I don't know enough about or i would fix the article myself. Guess I won't know more now. Are we supposed to read Wiki articles quickly now before someone fixes them? Im very disappointed. Please leave a little information in wiki before people simply stop using it.

And please, put in one of the other pictures. That picture isn't even of skiny cut jeans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.228.218 (talk) 05:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC) The jeans in the picture on this page definately aren't what I consider "skinny." They don't have a taper at all. Can we change it?

Yes, those darlings aint skinny at all.

Punkers
That sounds fucking retarded. That's a term 60 year old women use to describe punks. Changing to "punks". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.46.21.12 (talk) 10:10, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

NPOV
This article is tagged because its neutrality is disputed. I can't tell what exactly is being disputed, though. Anyone want to clue me in or can we take the tag off? AliaGemma 03:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Someone put the term queers all throughout this article, saying queer stars, pants for queers, and queer bands. I removed most of these references.

Come on....
This article seems like it was written by a moronic 15 year old "scene kid." First of all, skinny jeans are simply straight leg pants. I used to wear the "classic fit" jeans from The Limited Too when I was a little kid. They were skinny jeans. Skinny jeans are pretty much two parallel lines. Now, tapered jeans, also known as cigarette pants, drainpipes, and whatnot, actually hug the leg all the way down to the ankle. This creates a "V" shape to the leg. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spuddy 17 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC).


 * I believe you removed too much content in your edits. I don't necessarily agree with some of the content, but to have an article about a style, you have to describe the style in some way. Simply saying the style exists is not acceptable and could lead to the article getting tagged further than it was. --Mattarata 03:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, fair enough. I can agree that the style should be described. Someone think of something else to add to the article that is accurate. But just because an article needs a description doesn't mean that any ole description, accurate or not, should be applied to it. Spuddy 17 09:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well i took out the emo reference, but i put back the general description, it is not horrible, rather it needs cleanup. If you disagree with it, please make an attempt to edit, rather than simply removing the content. --Mattarata 14:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I disagree. The jeans being marketed nowadays as "skinny jeans" are definitely not just straight leg jeans.  Skinny jeans do hug the leg all the way down.  Some confusion might be do to the picture shown on the article page.  I do not believe that it is a good representation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AliaGemma (talk • contribs) 06:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

I think the neutrality problems with this article have been resolved, so I am removing the tag. Calliopejen 01:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Pants
In Britain, the term "Pants" commonly refers to undergarments, and I have never heard it being used to refer to trousers, in the UK. Shouldn't the article's name use a more widely accepted term, such as "Jeans"? Daisy-berkowitz 15:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think the title should be changed to "jeans," because the style is about more than just jeans. I don't know about the trousers vs. pants debate... Trousers is understood but infrequently used in the U.S (and sounds stilted to my ears).  A google search has 64 million pants results and 12 million trousers results. Calliopejen1 19:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Link problems
This corroborates a couple of requested cites, but currently a URL added earlier is hitting the spamfilter. Will (hopefully) come back to this later.... Nick Cooper 22:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Terminology has our panties in a knot. (And the Elvis photo is wrong too)
Quick one kids. (or a quick three actually)

(1) STAY ON TARGET!

Carrot-Leg, Tapered, Ice-Cream Cone, Peg-Leg etc. have been removed as they are not, and never have

been, "slim-fit pants".

See this link for an example of Peg-Leg and you'll know how MUCH they don't fit (ah, a pun!) here.

Fashion Trends - Peg Leg trousers

(2) PANTS ARE SO PANTS?

As for the terminology frustrations, i.e. In England 'pants' = 'underpants'.

Well, tough. The British use of 'pants' as reference to 'underpants' is a 20th century British aberration.

They've changed, the rest of the world hasn't. It's not just an American thing (although we all love to

blame our American cousins for ruining good English words!) Everyone in the English speaking world

outside of Great Britain says pants/trousers/jeans/slacks etc. for the the outer-garment and under-pants

for the UNDER-garment.

The word pants (related to pantaloons etc) was ALWAYS the British term for the outer-garment, and

it is the British that coined UNDER-pants for the garment worn, "under" ones pants.

'''(3) ELVIS AINT GOT NO DRAIN-PIPES! '''

We need to find another photo of Elvis, as in this shot he's NOT wearing 1950's Drain-Pipe jeans,

he's wearing Straight-Leg Levis. The Drain-Pipe jeans in the '50s hugged the thigh. These don't.

Right, that's me.

I'm off for a proper Melbourne coffee (i.e. not the watery muck I drank while living in the UK or holidaying in the US).

Hey let's meet over at the coffee thread and duke it out there! ;-)

Over and out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthk (talk • contribs) 04:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you're correct. The terms "ice cream cone pants," "carrot leg pants," and "slim jim pants" aren't in common use. I searched Google while restricting the maximum year to 2006, and the query returned only a few results, most of the text coming from Wikipedia.


 * However, drainpipe pants/jeans, stovepipe pants/jeans, cigarette pants/jeans, pencil pants/jeans and peg leg pants/jeans returned lot of results. Lumingz (talk) 18:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * You're also correct on the peg leg jeans. Peg leg jeans are not "skinny jeans." It's "Blue jeans with very narrow cuffs, sometimes zippered so you can get your feet through the opening. As in, those jeans are pegged." It's an 80's fashion. Examples include ASOS, here and here. Lumingz (talk) 18:47, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, and cigarette pants are skinny jeans. A quick search on Shopping.com confirms this. The Urban Dictionary entry confirms this as well. Lumingz (talk) 21:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Simple rebuttal. 'Pants' means something different in several countries. 'Trousers', however, means the same in every English speaking country in the world. Therefore, it's more appropriate. You say "everyone in the English speaking world outside of Great Britain" calls them pants, who exactly are you referring to, apart from Canada? Australasia? In both India and Pakistan, for example, the common term is 'trousers' also. Ignoring the fact that the English speaking population of those two countries dwarves America, Canada and Australasia combined, I still think the description should stick to a consistent term that can be understood by anyone. Hence trousers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.13.11 (talk) 01:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No-one under the age of 30 still uses the word 'Trousers', unless it's part of their job or some guy (probably the guy at the suit store) told them about the word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.33.187 (talk) 12:33, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Asian tight-pants
Asian tight-pants? Seriously? Who? Where?

A google search comes up with the wiki-article, a bunch of websites that reference the wiki-article and a facebook page supporting Asian tight-pants, oh and a bunch of porn. 211.31.33.187 (talk) 12:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I searched Google for "Asian tight pants", while restricting the maximum date to 2006, and it got only two results from Wikipedia. We should remove "Asian tight pants." Lumingz (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

The naming convention is inconsistent. There are "cigarette pants" and "cigarette jeans." There are also "pencil pants" and "pencil jeans." The term "pegs" in this article is a shortened form of "peg leg pants" or "peg leg jeans."

I think the naming section of this article should be revised Lumingz (talk) 22:23, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

"Skinny Jeans"
The term "skinny jeans" is a recent invention. It is used mostly in retail referring to pants which are slimmer than the average. Manufacturers vary in their terminology. For instance, Levi's 511 "Skinny Jeans" for men aren't quite as skinny compared to many other brands. In men's apparel, the term "skinny" doesn't necessarily mean "tight." It could mean "slim-fit."

"Skinny jeans" is a term used by fashionistas, fashion bloggers, and fashion magazines. "Tight jeans" is a term which is used by many people who are not as interested in fashion. For example, a lot of American men (who are uninterested in fashion) call skinny jeans as "tight jeans." This could be verified by a Google search. In general, the term "skinny jeans" connotes a fashion trend, while the term "tight jeans" connotes more of the fit of the jeans, regardless to today's trends. Lumingz (talk) 22:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

There are also super skinny jeans. Lumingz (talk) 01:59, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Gaza strip
"In the Gaza strip, Palestinian youths caught wearing skinny jeans are arrested and beaten by the police, and forced to have their hair cut" - this sentence implies that this is a regular occurrence, through the use of the word "are". The article referenced only refers to several incidents. I suggest changing the sentence to "In the Gaza strip, Palestinian youths caught wearing skinny jeans have been arrested and beaten by the police, and forced to have their hair cut". If there are no comments within 24 hours, I will change it. Andrei.smolnikov (talk) 23:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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