Talk:Slipknot (band)/Archive 10

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Death maetal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.162.171 (talk) 23:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * If you're saying death metal should be added as a subgenre then, no. Although it has been cited that Slipknot's earlier works contained hints of death metal, it is not broad enough to classify Slipknot as a death metal act. The genres listed are Heavy metal, nu metal and alternative metal because Slipknot encompasses these genres at a huge range on their recordings.  Kevon100    Talk! If you're ❺❺❺ then I'm ❻❻❻ 15:10, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Daarikon, 1 August 2010
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They aren't getting a new bass player. They will be using current members http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/slipknot_do_have_a_future.html Thats the link Daarikon (talk) 03:11, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Daarikon (talk) 03:11, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --ANowlin: talk 03:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Paul Gray
Paul Gray isn't a former member of the band, he will live on forever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 12:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

thats bullshit.he's dead so get over it. theshaz23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theshaz23 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Theshaz23, there is no need for language like that. --Jasca Ducato (talk) 18:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Im the ghost of Paul Gray. And, yes i will live on forever coz i will haunt you all and even posses!

Edit request from 173.217.233.83, 7 September 2010
Under the "Death of Paul Gray, (sic)nesses and the future of Slipknot (2010—present)" heading, the first sentence of the second paragraph is as follows: "Joey Jordison who told The Pulse of Radio that Gray would have wanted the band to continue, concluding 'Slipknot was his life.'"

The "who" in the sentence is completely unnecessary, and would have been a simple fix were this page not edit protected. As it stands, the "who" muddies the meaning of the sentence. It COULD stay, but the rest of the sentence would have to be tweaked to make it grammatically relevant and correct; I think it would be much simpler to remove "who," though.

173.217.233.83 (talk) 23:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for noticing that, the section was previously changed around, maybe the editor at that time did not re-read the section.Kevon100 (talk) 23:18, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Kevon100. Thanks, Stickee (talk)  01:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Correction to "Controversy with masks"
In the article it states the following, "Burger King responded to the suit with a countersuit, and in that suit pointed out that many other bands, such as Mr. Bungle, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne, Kiss, Insane Clown Posse and Gwar have used masks as part of their image."

To the best of my knowledge, and from looking up pictures and information on the bands listed above, Mudvayne, KISS & Insane Clown Posse never wore masks. Did they wear makeup? Yes, but not masks. I may be wrong on this, and if so I hope someone would point it out.

Here is my personal recollection of each of the bands I mentioned above.

KISS - I have been a fan of KISS for many, many years, I used to listen to their LPs and 45s, and their CDs. I've seen them on talk shows and such, and I've seen them with and without their makeup; but I've never seen them wear any masks.

Mudvayne - I am from Illinois and I remember when Mudvayne 1st started getting popular, that was almost 10 years ago. I loved their makeup, but no masks. I did see a few pictures of them where they were wearing red dress suits with white Alien masks, maybe that is what the article is referring to, but my impression from reading the article is that they were talking about using masks on a regular basis.

Insane Clown Posse - I'm not a big fan of ICP, I never have been and I never will be. However, I do know who Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent Jay are, and I've seen them all over the internet and I do like some of their music. I have always seen them wearing paint, mostly black and white but sometimes other colors. I've seen them wearing all sorts of things, but masks were never one of them.

I'm not saying I know everything about these three bands, I know I don't. I haven't followed them their entire careers, I probably know less than 10% of their songs (zero for Mudvayne). I do love music however and when I saw that there were six other bands that wore masks, it sparked my curiosity because I couldn't recall either of the three bands I mentioned wearing masks.

If I'm totally wrong, I apologize in advance if I offended or upset anybody (although I can't see how). Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.214.211.252 (talk) 22:00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


 * This is true, however these bands were examples and references included in Slipknot's law suit against Burger King. Besides Kiss, GWAR, Insane Clown Posse, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne they listed Marilyn Manson and Los Straitjackets. All of the above mentioned acts were quoted in their response and a comprehensive document can be found here.  Kevon100    Talk! If you're ❺❺❺ then I'm ❻❻❻ 15:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Correction under "Style and Lyrical Themes"
The following sentence should be corrected to the correct title of Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses)


 * However the band have continually experimented with their sound – most notably developing tracks led by acoustic guitars and melodic singing first introduced on Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Series).[65] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.224.197 (talk) 20:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Correction under "Style and Lyrical Themes"
The following sentence should be corrected to the correct title of Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses)


 * However the band have continually experimented with their sound – most notably developing tracks led by acoustic guitars and melodic singing first introduced on Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Series).[65] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.224.197 (talk) 20:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅  Kevon100    Talk! If you're ❺❺❺ then I'm ❻❻❻ 22:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Death metal influence
It's been a while since I looked at this article, and in the meantime, somebody has removed all reference to the band's death metal influences. There was some discussion a few years ago, and I produced a whole bunch of sources (found here) backing this up. What is the rationale for their removal? If the material is not restored, or a reasonable rationale provided for their non-inclusion, I will restore them myself tomorrow. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 16:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Early history
There is a serious error in the first paragraph of the early history. It correctly lists donnie steele as the first guitarist, but it later states donnie was invited in as the second guitarist when it should say josh brainard was invited as the second guitarist. id fix this error myself but the page is protected. 76.206.242.205 (talk) 01:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

singles
the volume 3 section fails to specify that the nameless was released from the 9.0 live album. also, im not sure but wasnt the blister exists released as a single? and the all hope is gone section fails to list the title track as the first single from the album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.206.242.205 (talk) 02:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

purity
why does the controversy section not mention the dispute over purity? i know its been resolved, but it should still be mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.206.242.205 (talk) 02:19, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

painface
since painface was an early incarnation of slipknot, shouldnt it be briefly mentioned in the early history, with a link to the painface page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.206.242.205 (talk) 19:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Starting fifth album
According to an article from Billboard posted today, Slipknot have begun writing their fourth studio album. It also says they have no plans to replace Gray, and expect to have a bass player off stage during live performances. I'd add this to the article myself, but I think parts of it may have to be restructured. So I'll leave that up to someone more familiar with the band and their situation. Fezmar9 (talk) 00:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Not metal
Altough they may have a couple metal elements here and there, this band clearly isn't metal. I'm correcting that.190.17.10.66 (talk) 14:39, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * A consenus of the genre has been met on the Slipknot talk page already. Slipknot has been nominated six times in the Best Metal Performance category at the Grammy Awards, Before I Forget was listed as the best metal song of the decade by AOL 2000-2010 and AllMusic categorized Slipknot as a heavy metal band. Ref: AMG  Kevon100    Talk! If you're ❺❺❺ then I'm ❻❻❻ 14:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * How the hell is Slipknot not metal? That's like saying Slayer is dream pop, that's like saying Cannibal Corpse is emo, that's like saying Obama will one day decide to side with diseases that effect out country. In other words, it's total nonsense and ignorant words. Even having the debate that you attempted to create would have been a waste of time. •  GunMetal Angel  09:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * There's no need for such a tone.  Kevon100    Talk! If you're ❺❺❺ then I'm ❻❻❻ 02:59, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Early history error
I can't edit for some reason, so can someone fix it for me? In the first paragraph, it states that donnie steel was the lead guitarist. it later states in the same paragraph donnie steele was invited in as a second guitarist. Obviously, josh brainard was supposed to be invited in as the second guitarist. its a human mistake, but needs to be fixed. As i said i cant edit for some reason, so can someone fix this? 75.34.25.91 (talk) 18:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ It was an error, thank you for identifying it and letting us know. Merry Christmas.  Kevon100    Talk! If you're ❺❺❺ then I'm ❻❻❻ 02:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)