Talk:Slovenska Vas, Šentrupert

Wazenberg Castle/Mansion
The building is described as a mansion (dvorec) at this page as well as here. The name Dob Castle would probably be more appropriate for Gradič Dob in Dobja Vas.

I'm also not sure about the relationship between Dob I and Dob II. See also these snippets:, ,.

The third link (No. 3, Dob II) mentions the village od Dob, which makes me think that Dob was a separate village in the past.

One of the sources mentioned above states that the former name of the village was Straža pri Šentrupertu, not Nemška Vas. On the other hand, Straža, Šentrupert still exists in the immediate vicinity. I'm not sure about the relation between the two. --Eleassar my talk 11:07, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


 * A detailed description of the castle is available at de:Schloss Wazenberg. -Eleassar my talk 11:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The distinction between a manor and a castle is often arbitrary in English; I wouldn't use mansion in this case because it has a very un-fortified sound to it (also, the Valvasor illustration is very castle-like with the corner towers, but it could reasonably be called a manor too). The structure is often referred to as a castle (Schloß) in German sources. According to the 1900 census (p. 85, note 4.25), Dob (Wazenberg) and Slovenska Vas (Nemška vas, Deutschdorf) were both part of Straža at the time. I don’t know when Slovenska Vas became independent of Straža, but apparently Dob remained part of Slovenska Vas when that occurred. The relationship between the Dob I and Dob II buildings is also not entirely clear to me. The www.slosi.info pages seem to say that Dob I was razed in the 17th century and Dob II built as a replacement structure in the same site. Perhaps a local printed source or museum would be able to provide more precise information. Doremo (talk) 11:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The northeastern L-shaped part of the structure in the German map still exists (at 45°57'11.22" N 15°5'21.94" E), so the location can be pinpointed. Doremo (talk) 11:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC)