Talk:SlutWalk/Archives/2013/September

Minor wording change proposal
I propose changing "The protest takes the form of a march, mainly by young women, where some dress as sluts in revealing attire." to "The protest takes the form of a march, mainly by young women, where some dress "like sluts" in revealing attire."

I propose this because the former statements reifies the exactly what SlutWalk is raising awareness about. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:54, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Good point, go for it. Richard Keatinge (talk) 09:01, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I think SlutWalk is trying to say there is nothing wrong with the word "slut." Putting it in quotes suggests that there still is, and that it is an epithet that has shameful implications. Quite a detail, I know! Can you make your point a little more clearly? I think that the word without quotes makes SlutWalk ideology concrete in a way that they would approve of. In the link "reify" has a number of meanings and possible ways of using it - did you mean "concretise" as I have assumed? Hyper3 (talk) 16:53, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I meant Reification (fallacy). There is no such thing as a "slut", it's just a shaming label used.  But I guess the reason I want to change the sentence is that my immediate question when I read it was "how do sluts dress?"  It would be wrong to say that revealing attire enough to be labelled as a slut or that all sluts wear revealing attire.  By adding the quotation marks and the word "like", I was trying to show that this is not a real, objective thing, but what other says.  They dress in attire that matches stereotypes of sluts.  Slut costumes if you will.


 * I'm trying to think of another, simpler way of saying it but can't think of anything that isn't overly wordy. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:30, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Isn't "reclaiming" the word slut a reification per se: by subscribing to it they seek to disarm it? A comedic version of "slut" (wearing revealing attire) stands for sexual promiscuity; yet the shame is denied by being proud instead of repentant? Hyper3 (talk) 20:58, 11 September 2013 (UTC)