Talk:Sly Stone

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SLY! - next to james brown - is the most important funk innovator of all time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.240.198.60 (talk) 10:05, 10 June 2003 (UTC)

Did he ran off the stage at the Grammy's before the conclusion of the performance? Kenimaru 11:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, he did. I saw it on TV and was the one who added that info...I think that there were numerous news articles about the performance and I'm sure one of them could be cited for that piece of information. M. Stern 04:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Was he born -44 or -43? It says diffrent everywhere! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.255.75.102 (talk) 18:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

His website (and other sources) give birth year as 1944 http://www.slystonemusic.com/biography/ Thisdaytrivia (talk) 16:07, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I noticed that, too. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:51, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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Hopefully this solves the photo problem here?
I uploaded a CC-BY-SA photo to Wikimedia Commons and placed it here in the infobox, so I hope that will solve the photo issue. :) --Leahtwosaints (talk) 02:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Actuality & Lawsuit
Someone should consider to update any new information about the actual lawsuit. It would be very appreciated. I'm following it with great interest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.80.146.112 (talk) 21:57, 12 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah I agree here is a press release http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sly-Stone-Sues-Former-Manager-bw-1596516193.html?x=0&.v=1 24.4.132.165 (talk) 23:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

coachella 2010
anyone want to add anything about sly stone's utterly horrid performance at coachella? i did not see it but there is enough coverage on it to integrate in to the article. he was falling asleep and getting the lyrics wrong and kept yelling at his band members to start over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsage (talk • contribs) 08:23, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Whole History?
Why is their no mention of Sylvester Stewart's extravegant wedding to Deborah King at Madison Square Garden in 1972 or'73? It was a circus for sure, with fans buying tickets to the nupitals. Since the Seventies, nothing has been mentioned of it, not even-I believe-in the subsequent CD compilation liner notes. I also remember that Sly was hospitalized shortly after their honeymoon; Deborah (who was Fillipino) reportedly forcibly squatted in the same room in a hospital bed next to him over the protests of the staff. And, wow! Was her second husband actually Carlos Satana???

75.198.213.128 (talk) 02:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)Veryerser

You're not remembering correctly. Sly and Deborah never married. Sly married Kathy Silva at MSG in 74. Deborah (who is African American, not Filipino) did indeed marry Carlos Santana. They have since divorced.

Sly's Fillipina
The comment below originally appeared in 2010AD. The Neandethal who omitted cited it as "unsourced" twice. As I've said, this is in the public record.

I'm a little confused, which is nothing when one tries to get their information off wikipedia.com As I remember, Sly Stone married this strikingly tall Filipina woman in 1971 or '72 in a raucus wedding held at Madison Square Garden to paying fans. On reading the Wiki history on both Santana and Sly, a female member of the " ...Family Stones" appears as the former wife of Sly and current wife of Santana! Her name is DEBORAH KING (SANTANA). Now this is r-e-a-l-l-y confusing, as the image of Deborah and this Filipina woman (who at the time was sooo statuesque she could've blown ALL of the 70s sick-figure models outta the water. This woman appears in Sly's album "SMALL TALK", her and him holding their toddler son.

Now if the Filipina IS NOT Deborah King, then who is she, what is the relation between these two women to Sly, and why is there no info on this?

Also omitted from Wiki is the fact that while Sly was hospitalized shortly after his honeymoon to this Asian woman, she bullied the the hospital staff into accomodating her demands to share a room with her husband by having a bed right next his. This reference I remember from Jet Magazines, which chronicled many exploits of black public public figures that usually were not covered in the "main-stream" press. Lucky them to be living in those times!

I like to get some feed-back on these matters, particularly Sly's wives, and this Madison Square garden thing, the latter not getting the kind of iconic reporting that lesser Rock stars get.

Much is omitted in recent, post modern history of pop culture. With black luminaries it's like classic NAZI disinformation and black-out.

Please respond, if you will.

Real Peace, and Later

P.S: I'm sure much of the information may be contained in Mr. Stewart's forthcoming biography and the movie documentary. But then again with Slyvester Stewart's notorious evasivness and neuroses, one can't be sure unless we demand the facts with the old 60s war-cry "UP AGAINST THE WALL!!!" --96.250.192.24 (talk) 05:02, 22 July 2011 (UTC)Veryveser

Sly married Kathy Silva at MSG in 1974. She is Hawaiian, not Filipino. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.139.243 (talk) 17:09, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Sources moved here from External links, since they belong here, not there
These sources do not ever belong in External links. I have moved the link farm from there to this talk page where they do belong. Warning: I didn't check them over, so be careful in choosing any references here. Thank you! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 02:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Outsideleft.com: Sly Stone, Live in London review by Joe Ambrose
 * on Myspace
 * Dance To The Music, a documentary about Sly & the Family Stone, broadcast 7/12/2008 contains the first TV interview with Sly Stone in years.
 * Edwin & Arno Konings www.slystonebook.com
 * Aswad, Jem (Feb 10, 2006). "Who, Exactly, Is Sly Stone? (That Weird Guy With The Mohawk At The Grammys)". MTV.com. Retrieved February 11, 2006.
 * Coyle, Jake (Feb 8, 2006). "Reclusive Sly Stone Steps Out at Grammys". Yahoonews.com. Retrieved February 11, 2006.

"On welfare" potentially libelous
I'm concerned about publishing the claims that Sly Stone was living "on welfare." In the US, "welfare" -- financial support for people capable of holding a job -- exists only for minor children through their guardian/custodial parent, and is limited to 60 months in a lifetime. The closest he could get is SSI (limited to poverty-stricken people incapable of employment due to age or disability), a very different program; it could only be called "welfare" in the way that a woman is a man based on the broad definition of "man" referring to our species, if you get my drift. —Xyzzy☥the☥Avatar 10:58, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

2 Satisfied Internet Release?
Why no mention of Sly's own release of the new song 2 Satisfied on the net in 2012? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.12.11.152 (talk) 22:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Are you talking about "Satisfied"? There are no reliable sources that mention it, that's why it's not mentioned in the article. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:05, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

'personal problems and decline' section problem
Re this: "This ['There's a Riot Goin' On'] was the first major label album to feature a drum machine.", see Robin Gibb's "Robin's Reign" (Polydor/Atco), recorded March to October of '69, released Feb 1970, where its "Saved by the Bell" single (released June '69) and a half dozen of its other tracks infamously used a primordial drum machine, terribly poorly recorded & mixed, dominating the other instruments. An aesthetic failure, but far predating 'Riot's' sessions. Listen to 'Saved' online and/or see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saved_by_the_Bell_(song) and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin%27s_Reign. If "Riot"'s page also references the issue, it, too, should be corrected. 63.142.146.194 (talk) 19:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

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