Talk:Smokestack America

Notability
A common term, this can be made into an article. Bearian (talk) 16:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC) There are Thousands of Ghits and [ http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Smokestack%20america%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&lr&tab=np lots of Book citations], and Dozens of articles available to prove the notability of this term. Bearian (talk) 16:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I put in a few of the references, based on G Books,  and thee are 100s if not 1000s more. Does need expansion. DGG (talk) 18:28, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The article looks a lot better, but I'm not sure it will ever be able to expand beyond a simple definition. To quote Wikipedia is not a dictionary, "Per our Deletion policy, stubs that cannot possibly be expanded beyond perpetual stub status should be either renamed, merged, or refactored into articles with wider scope, that can be expanded beyond perpetual stub status, or deleted if it cannot be renamed, merged, or refactored." Perhaps a merge like the one suggested below would be appropriate? Somno (talk) 10:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Merger
There is currently too much focus upon particular words, which is contrary to WP:DICDEF. I suggest that the article be merged with Rust Belt which is a better article upon a similar topic. Colonel Warden (talk) 18:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support - They are very closely related concepts, so it makes sense to me to merge them. Wizard191 (talk) 21:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Disagree - While related, the term "Rust Belt" is not just a manufacturing or business identity, but a cultural one as well. The term describes not just the physical location of the steel and automotive industry (and is largely limited to steel and the top 3 tiers of the automobile manufacturing industry), but describes the unique blue collar culture and industrial wasteland that has since developed. On the other hand, as I understand it, Smokestack America is a largely business reference to describe the manufacturing base of the United States and includes not just the automobile and steel industries, but textiles, agricultural processing, and any number of other manufacturing industries. If anything "rust belt" is a subset of "Smokestack America". jglazer75 (talk) Jglazer75 (talk) 16:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)jglazer75


 * Delete Smokestack America and make it redirect to Rust Belt. - I think that jglazer75 takes too restrictive a definition or "Rust Belt." I suspect that at one time "Smokestack America" was a term competing with "Rust Belt," but it has lost.  It's no longer terribly notable, and a merger wouldn't help Rust Belt.  (For the record, "Smokestack America" gets 6,280 Google hits and "Rust Belt" gets 415,000.)  MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 04:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * more properly part of the Technological and industrial history of the United States.Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 19:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)