Talk:Smoking jacket

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 * 1) 1 - I recommend we swap the picture of Saddam Hussein with Hugh Hefner.   Same level of fame, not quite as repulsive, and Hef is certainly more associated with the clothing than Saddam is.


 * 1) 2 - Why isn't Hugh Hefner mentioned in the article stub? Like I said, he's practically synonymous with it.  Kade 04:19, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Why "smoking" is called pseudo-loanword in this article? What is pseudo about it? I wanted to add Russian since "smoking" has the same meaning as in the mentioned languages. But this pseudо confused me.


 * The photo used in the article looks more like a dressing gown than a smoking jacket. I am removing it because of this reason. --Charlie Huang 【遯卋山人】 14:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Pseudo
I assume it's called a "pseudo-" loanword because the word "smoking" is used by itself to refer to the jacket in these languages (i.e. it is used as a noun). It's not technically a loanword, then, because it's simply an adjective in the original language.
 * It is a loanword, because it is a word loaned from our language. The fact that it is mis-used, from our point of view, makes it a false friend or Pseudo-Anglicism. boffy_b 15:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Odour clinging to fabric
This is "original research" I guess, but I bought a second hand jacket that reeks of cigar smoke and those that my friends who smoke own also pick up odours. I think the use of the jacket is as something you wear to smoke, then remove to be in the presence of ladies.

Smoking to Smock
I always believed that the Smoking jacket came from a bastardization of Smock. Webhat (talk) 03:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Missing references
I added a "no references" tag to the article - does anyone know where any of the information in the article came from so we can put in some sources? Graymornings (talk) 13:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Cannabis
That sentence does not make logical sense, and it could use a reference.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Purpose of smoking jacket
Do smoking jackets not absorb tobacco stench? The article hints at this, but doesn't actually say. What's special about smoking jackets that prevents tobacco from lingering on them?


 * I don't know. I came here looking for the answer. /me research.


 * I don't believe there's anything particularly active in play. Tobacco (and other) smoke clings to all clothes, hairs and things very quickly and quite hard. I think the main point was to cover a fair bit of self (including waistcoat, shirt?) with something that can be taken off when finished and even more so not cause the stench to cling to ones "main" coat.


 * The main purpose of the smoking jacket, which is an overgarment, is to protect a man's regular clothing so it will not be burnt by a spark or pipe ash. Smoking jackets are made of silk or silk velvet. Silk does not catch fire or burn easily, unlike cotton or wool. This probably should be noted added to the article. Note: Testing a thread for pure silk content by putting a flame to it to see if it does not burn is a common test by fabric wholesalers. (Please add four tildes to your questions and replys in the future. Thank you.) Charvex (talk) 03:38, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I know this is a very old discussion but I'd like to point out that the term smoking jacket was probably an euphemism rather than an attempt to describe a jacket somehow well-suited or designed for tobacco smoking per se. Yes, the smoking jacket would be worn for occasions which would feature tobacco smoking but more importantly, they would feature drinking, games and other carousing, in contrast to formal white tie occasions. I mean, the comfortable smoking jacket was for more rowdy and informal gatherings, but you couldn't call it the drinking jacket or the party jacket, could you? JJohannes (talk) 18:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

A tuxedo (or dinner jacket )
A tuxedo (or dinner jacket) is both in French and in German just called ‘Smoking’. In Germany (and France, I guess), many believe that it is exactly the English name for the tuxedo or even the black tie.
 * See
 * Smoking and http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking (dress)--Schwab7000 (talk) 15:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Dressing gown redirects to Bathrobe -- is wrong ?
In History section, sentence "It became fashionable to be depicted in one's portrait wearing a silk robe de chambre, or dressing gown." dressing gown redirects to Bathrobe. The content in Bathrobe page seems wrong. Would make sense to redirect to "Banyan (clothing)" which is the same as "robe de chambre". Or, remove the "dressing gown" reference entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.230.210.2 (talk) 00:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Vaping and tuxedo
Amy Dickinson today printed a letter from someone who recommends a smoking jacket to prevent certain problems with vaping, and this is not in the article but probably should be. Maybe it's a sign the custom will make a comeback.

I made one improvement and have a proposal for another one.

In French class in high school I learned that a tuxedo was called "Le smoking", so it makes sense to have the term described here, but it was in the wrong section. — Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  17:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)