Talk:Smoothie

Are the "free recipe" External Links justified?
Are the "free recipe" External Links justified as adding to the encyclopedic content of the topic? Common sense would say no; a link solely for listing "recipes" is just a concoction of potentially endless permutations, not adding anything of substance to the topic such as smoothie history or some type of "how to".... I propose removing external links to pages tagged as listing just recipes as this: a.) does not add encyclopedic content to the topic b.) condones adding on a potentially unlimited number of links to other permutative based recipe listing type sites

I agree with the external links recipe exclusion; if people want to list their recipes and that's it they can do this on DMOZ......

The point of this discussion is to exclude links to specific recipes, because they are endless and permutative. The "How to Make a Smoothie" page goes into specific detail about how to do this beyond the required encyclopedic content of the page. Thus, per the WP:EL page, "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to amount of detail" This site falls into that category. The link is not for a recipe as stated above, it is a "how to" page.

Wiki writing award
This article starts: "A smoothie (alternatively spelled smoothy) is a blended and sometimes sweetened beverage made from fresh fruit (fruit smoothie) and in special cases can contain chocolate or peanut butter. In addition to fruit, many smoothies include crushed ice, frozen fruit, honey or contain syrup and ice ingredients. They have a milkshake-like consistency that is thicker than slush drinks. They can also contain milk, yogurt or ice cream. Smoothies are often marketed to health-conscious people, and some restaurants offer add-ins such as soy milk, whey powder, green tea, herbal supplements, or nutritional supplement mixes. Smoothies became widely available in the United States in the late 1960s when ice cream vendors and health food stores began selling them. By the 1990s and 2000s, smoothies became available at mainstream cafés and coffee shops and in pre-bottled versions at supermarkets all over the world." This has to be one of the best train wrecks of an opening paragraph in all of wiki-land - that in itself is a remarkable achievement considering how badly written wiki-articles are overall - congratulations and keep up the good work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.32 (talk) 20:13, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * So fix it. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  20:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Poor sourcing
I've removed the etymologies as being poorly researched and false. I also trimmed the article significantly. All of that history is tripe...clearly the term was already in use in this context as early as 1934 and products sold as early as 1936. I haven't done an exhaustive search but here are a few examples:


 * Vanity Fair, Volumes 41-43, 1934. p. 74.
 * Ice Cream Review, Volume 19, 1936.
 * Druggists' Circular, Volume 80, 1936.
 * American Druggist, Volume 98, 1938. (containing a Root beer smoothie recipe with two scoops of vanilla ice cream added)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:57, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:02, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Adding that the previous claims about the first Smoothie trademark was also false. Not sure if this is the first but Bowey's has had "Old Smoothie" since 1936 which predates the other claim.


 * OK I've summarized this information in my recent revisions (though haven't bothered to add the references as they are primary sources). Ben Finn (talk) 19:37, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

The popularity in smoothies in 90's
I'm afraid whole article is about commercial product, not a traditional dish. It says that electric blender made it more popular - back in days people mashed fruits as well and drank smoothies since hundreds of years, but the blender made it easier for industrial production.

The article states that smoothie gained popularity worldwide in 90's, but it gives source for word popularity. The source is Ngram viewer. The 90's are also the time when many countries started to use English names for things that were known under a local name. As far I see in Slavic countries, it's getting less popular - it was popular when preparing own dishes from fresh vegetables and fruits was typical - now people drink it from time to time, but that's nothing comparing to a few smoothies a day during whole summer. They are in most cooking books from 50's or 60's, but nowadays it's not a principle, i.e. it's no more a basic food, but something more fancy. I'd say it's something like that:
 * 1) Being basic food
 * 2) Some shops starts to sell it and they call it smoothie - as restaurant/shop one is different than home-made people think about it as something different
 * 3) Original product declines (due to instant/ready to eat dishes + more people disowning gardens) but the same one under name smoothie is kept by marketing - still, it's about 10-100x original price (about 0.05 EUR when homemade vs. 1 EUR for the cheapest in supermarket), so naturally it's less popular to eat, but as all fancy things, more popular to talk about

And that's very typical to capitalism - sell something basic and cheap as something new and fancy. It's very close to "eco food" case. 150 years ago eating eco food wasn't lifestyle or trend, because it was too obvious and too basic - there were recipes using "eco food", but just under different name (i.e. "food", heh). Does it mean that such food is more popular nowadays, comparing to 150 years ago, when 100% of food could be called nowadays "eco"? No, it just means it's classic product sold as something new.

That drink is very traditional and old (you can encounter it in the classic literature), yet most languages use name "smoothie" - kind of unusual for such old products, but usual for things which are faked as something new. Krzysiu (talk) 02:00, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Add Section?
It could be a good idea to add a section about many different recipes or a section for people to add links to recipes they enjoy. I couldn't find anything on wiki about how to make smoothies so, adding it to this page seems like a good idea. It could provide more information that others may find useful as well. I like that the article does include different food items you can use in smoothies. IT would seem more useful to give ideas about how they can make or use those items to make smoothies! AnonymousQueen18 (talk) 23:26, 23 November 2020 (UTC)