Talk:Snake handling in Christianity

Merger proposal
I propose merging Snake handling in religion into Snake handling in Christianity. Most of the material in the Snake handling in religion page is about Christianity, including the separate sentence on the Ophites which were a Christian sect. That could easily be folded in. As for the one sentence on Hopi snake-handling rituals, that could easily be folded into the kachina article. Snake Handling in Christianity is a far superior article to Snake Handling in Religion, which really only adds two sentences of value.DynaGuy00 (talk) 03:14, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Well, the previous split was performed by User:Scyrme as part of reorganisation per the above discussion. This doesn't seem to be a topic that needs a WP:broad-concept article overview though. Agree that the two sentences should be accommodated elsewhere. Snake handling is now a disambiguation page, and links can be listed there for navigation purposes. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:24, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

✅ DynaGuy00 (talk) 00:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge - I agree that there is not really a subject beyond snake handling in Christianity. The couple of mentions elsewhere are not enough for an encyclopaedic article, and that this page is really the main page on this subject. I think User:Paul_012's response looks like a !vote to merge too. This request has been open over a month. I have just got here, but it has probably been long enough for User:DynaGuy00 to request closure. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:44, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

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Cruelty
Whilst the article is reassuring on the safety of observers and, in most cases, the fondlers; nowhere does it mention this is gross cruelty to animals, nor of any prosecutions for such by the multifarious governments in the United States.

Extra: on the previous Talk Page, there was a suggestion referenced to the reputable History Channel that the practice was brought over by Calvinists from Europe.

Now my opinion of Calvinism is unprintable, but apart from it's inherent unlikelihood  ---  Pressies are just not that sort of people  ---  one would have to produce evidence of the practice being used in Europe during the Renaissance and later, for it to be then exported by loons.

Claverhouse (talk) 02:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Watch the commentary ("loons"). Aside from that, you'd need reliable sources to make additions on animal cruelty issues. —  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 20:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would postulate that exhibiting shy animals such as snakes, and playing about with them without their consent is implicitly cruel. Claverhouse (talk) 23:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That's original research. We can't just conclude it ourselves, we need reliable sources which state it. —  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 11:57, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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