Talk:Snickerdoodle

Etymology
You unilingual people need to do more work on etymology. Two minutes at the Google translator turns up several (more) plausible explanations.

Dutch tradition? Not in the Netherlands! :-)

I live in the Netherlands and honest, I never heard of Snickerdoodles until an friend of mine that lives in the U.S. wrote me about it - which made me Google for Snickerdoodles. It is definitely not a traditional Christmas cookie here! :-)


 * I will remove that line. Someone changed it - It used to say that they were a traditional Christmas in the United States, a statement which I think is also false - at least here in New England. Alcinoe 08:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Decoration error?** In my experience (and confirmed by photos across the internet) snickerdoodles are rarely if ever decorated by pressing the back of a fork into the top. This is much more characteristic of peanut-butter cookies.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melissaedow (talk • contribs) 23:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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This is just a recipe, which wikipedia purports not to be for!!
 * You're right about this article as it stands. I believe it has potential for expansion into an encyclopedia article (as soon as I can find some references), but in its current state there's not much to it. I would just ignore it as harmless until it is expanded, but if you really think it should be deleted you can nominate it at WP:VFD. -Aranel (" Sarah ") 12:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

why would an encylopedia article for a "major" cookie like the snickerdoodle not include a recipe? Wouldn't that be like an article on water that forgot to mention H2O? While wikipedia doesn't want to get filled up with silly recipes, a recipe serving as a definition of an important cultural icon should be acceptable.

contradiction?
How do we know it's a "creation of nineteenth century New England," if the article then goes on to say that "An interesting side of the snickerdoodle’s history is that the recipe for the cookies cannot be found in any 18th-19th century American cookbook." Joyous | Talk 02:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

The recipe will be removed
Per Wp:not point 4, recipes are not appropriate for a wikipedia article. The recipe will be transwikied to wikibooks cookbook, at which point it will be removed from this article. --Xyzzyplugh 14:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

cream of tartar
Cream of tartar is an acid that activates baking soda, and is not sweet, thus is does not "balance out the cinnamon" like the article currently states (that is what the sugar-heavy sugar:cinnamon ratio is for). I'm editing that line in the article. B.T.Carolus (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Baking powder instead of baking soda + cream of tartar??
This sentence here: "In modern recipes, the leavening agent is usually baking powder in contrast with traditional techniques where baking soda and cream of tartar were used.[1]" does not make much sense. Baking powder is a combination of baking soda and one or more acid salts, mostly commonly cream of tartar. It isn't always cream of tartar, but the combination of them is still a form of baking powder, so it's basically saying that modern recipes use baking powder instead of using ingredients which form baking powder. That seems to confuse things more than it enlightens. Can anyone think of a reason to keep this sentence rather than just remove it? KeithyIrwin (talk) 03:29, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Eggs
The sentence mentioned above seems to have changed to:


 * Eggs may also sometimes be used as an ingredient, with cream of tartar and baking soda added to leaven the dough

which seems confusing for a number of reasons. First, as noted above, is there any reason to mention these separately? Perhaps this is some strange feature of US baking but from my experience, recipes nowadays either use baking powder or baking powder + baking soda or just baking soda. Probably some recipes may use cream of tartar + baking powder although I don't think I've ever baked one myself. While I'm sure some must exist, I can't see that it's particularly common to use cream of tartar + baking soda when baking powder will do in most cases. I'm presuming we're discussing cases when the ingredients are combined together rather then used for different purposes (added to different ingredients) or added at vastly different times. Second, is the sentence trying to say cream of tartar + baking soda is only used when eggs are added or what? Finally the 'egg' comment seems misleading to me. While I appreciate it's difficult to source what ingredients are the norm in something, all working links include eggs in the recipe. When I did a search, I opened most links for the first 3 results which looked like they had recipes and every single one contained eggs. While it's obviously possible to make egg free snickerdoodlges as it is for many things which normally use eggs, even my search for that finds recipes suggesting egg free snickerdoodles are far from the norm. In other words the wording is misleading.

Nil Einne (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

US regional confection?
These things apparently are not new, as I thought at first, so maybe it's geography. I certainly never heard of them growing up in the deep South. I never knew of them until an episode of 'That 70s Show' depicted Kitty and Donna improving the recipe. A midwestern goodie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.249.146.8 (talk) 17:10, 14 March 2020 (UTC)