Talk:Snow Prince

Review
The problems that prevent this article from attaining B-class:
 * Referencing
 * Not reliable references: #8, #27 (IMDB isn't a reliable source, see WP:RS/IMDB), #10 (JpopAsia.com is user edited), #25 (looks self-published WP:SPS)--The reviewer is well known for his movie-reviews in Asian films. (as per exception in "Self-published expert sources")
 * Doubts about references: #4 (movieexclusive.com)- I am only making use of the review, and it is not required to source reviews. #6 (Tokyograph.com)-It is merely translating what reputable Japanese sources like Oricon Style or Sports Hoshi publishes. (I thought that most readers will not understand the Japanese. And it is fulfilling the request for an English Language one.)
 * I don't know where you got the impression that sources are not required for reviews, but I assure you that is not the case. See  Manual_of_Style_(film) (Reliable sources should be used to determine how the film was received). As for Tokyograph, if it is translating reviews from elsewhere then it might be a good idea to include the source of the original review in the reference as well as per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Ref 30 (El Magazine) isn't reliable, the original review in the magazine might be a reliable source, but the reference is for a copy of it on Wordpress which is an WP:SPS blog site (the reference also violates WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT because the source is wordpress, not the magazine that published it). Ref 32 (Nutshell review) is an WP:SPS blog and therefore not a reliable source.Betty Logan (talk) 01:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Not enough reference information: #14 ("The Making of Snow Prince" Video) WP:V
 * Ref 25 doesn't seem to supply the correct reference for the link. Also, not all the references give publication/retrieval dates. Betty Logan (talk) 01:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Coverage
 * Lead section is inadequate. See MOSFILM.
 * Plot summary doesn't meet WP:FILMPLOT guidelines which state summaries should be 400–700 words.
 * Cast list is basically just a credit roll. Doesn't comply with WP:FILMCAST.
 * There is no coverage of the development and pre-production of the film.
 * The Theme Song section could do with more exposition. What is the "The Snow Prince Gasshōdan group"? What is the context of the song i.e. what is notable about it?
 * No coverage of its critical reception in its home country.
 * Structure is counter-intuitive. Article should be divided into sections of related material. I advise modelling the structure on WP:MOSFILM.
 * "Release" should not be a sub-section of "Production".
 * "Theme Songs" should be probably come under "Soundtrack" or "Production".
 * " Film Festivals" should probably come under "Release".
 * "Critical Reception", "Box Office" and "Awards" should all come under "Reception".
 * While the level of English is adequate, the prose could still do with some work, it doesn't flow very well.Betty Logan (talk) 01:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the article has come on a lot which is why I've upgraded it to C class; the reason I haven't given it B class is because there are still shortcomings in the coverage of the production of the film. The production information is still basic and I don't believe it meets the requirement that Readers are not left wanting, although the content may not be complete enough to satisfy a serious student or researcher. If you compare it to the example B class article  you will see the casting and production content is much more substantial than it is here, and gives a much clearer overview of the film's background. It is fully sourced now, the structure is fine and it is neutral, it just needs a bit more background on the production. Betty Logan (talk) 07:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd also agree that the article is still C-class. There are several areas that could use additional citations along with some further improvement to the prose/formatting. I'd recommend having someone copyedit the article. For some of the brief sections, try and expand on the details or incorporate them into another section to improve the flow of the article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:FILM Assessment
Per a request at WikiProject Film/Assessment, I have reviewed this article to determine if it should be assessed at B class. Below are a few issues that should be resolved prior to reassessment.


 * 1) The two non-free images exceed size requirements, so I tagged them with non-free reduce. Someone may address this for you, but if you know how to do it, feel free.
 * 2) "The story begins in the present..." Reword the plot so it doesn't become self-referential with details like "the story", "the movie", or "the film ends".
 * 3) The citations in the plot section when covering standard plot details.
 * 4) In the cast section, the citations either directly follow the actor's name or the end of the character description; make it consistent.
 * 5) There are a lot of brief paragraphs throughout the article. See if similar details can be merged together to improve the flow of the article.
 * 6) See if the official website's link can be retrieved from the Internet Archive, if not, remove it from the article.
 * 7) There's still some more grammar and overlinking issues throughout the article. Have another editor or visit WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors to have someone take a look at the article.

Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be upgraded to B class. You can either make this assessment yourself or let me know and I'll give it another look. Good work so far. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 18:31, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I went through and did some cleanup, including modifying the plot and merging a few of the paragraphs together. I reassessed the article as B class. Before advancing to GA, I would recommend getting a few more editors to take a look at it and make sure that all of the citations are as complete as possible. If you have any questions, please let me know. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 00:35, 4 September 2011 (UTC)