Talk:Sobriety

Lifetime sobriety?
I marked the part labeled as "Lifetime Sobriety" for sourcing. It looks rather strange and was probably added there as a prank. After a google search I found absolutely no references to this Oliver Taylor. If no one is opposed to it I believe it should be removed. --Mad78 (talk) 20:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Please translate this into English
"willing to stop acting out in personal bottom-line addictive behaviour" -- what does that even mean? --Dcfleck 12:32, 2005 May 11 (UTC)
 * Maybe the person who wrote it was drunk? --Baryonic Being 17:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've removed it. It makes no sense and has been there too long without anyone justifying it. Haddock420 (talk) 17:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I beleive it means realizing you need to change your attitude and doing it as well —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.219.144 (talk) 05:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Should this be a disambiguation page?
It reads like a disambiguation page. Should it be one? Or should we have a separate disambig page that links to sobriety (culture) or something? --Baryonic Being 17:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation Page is a Good Idea
Sobriety is a potential 'hot topic' I think, given that some Wikipedians might be anonymous members of 12-step sobriety groups. They are required, I think, to remain anonymous about their membership, but certainly will have a good perspective on sobriety, technical and emotional. A disambig page would be helpful to sort out the biases of different modes of psychological description. The choice of anonimity is theirs, although they should not divulge the names of other people or what group(s) they come. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.219.144 (talk) 06:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Sobriety
Anyone not involved in rehabilitation for drug abusers might find the definition of sobriety somewhat confusing.

However, the wording is correct and it is the actions of the abuser that need to be explained. Sobriety is definitely about having the abuser stop using their drug(s) of choice but it is also about having them address their attitudes and actions associated with their abuse.

It is no good having someone give up the drug if they don't address their harmful bottom line behaviours.

Behaviours such as family violence,child neglect, no regard for personal health and hygiene,poor role modelling for children,poor work performance,etc.

The true evaluation of success for an abuser is not in keeping them from using but in seeing altered attitudes and lifestyles.218.215.225.86 00:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Greg B Substance Misuse Counsellor

The above definition of "Sobriety" is so wide that the term "Insobriety" could be applied to just about anyone on the planet; indeed, sometimes it is used by unscrupulous--or, at best misguided--"therapists" as a means of attracting business. That is why those not involved (as therapists or as patients) in rehabilitation might well find the definition of sobriety somewhat confusing. Sobriety involves not being under the influence of alcohol or unprescribed drugs. All other definitions must be seen and understood as secondary.--PeadarMaguidhir (talk) 14:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Emotional sobriety
The concept of emotional sobriety (basically accepting responsibility for ones actions and acting in a responsible way) as used by 12-step groups is not used here and there should be multiple reliable sources to help establish it. - Stillwaterising (talk) 16:30, 16 April 201this article aint go tshit to it

Medicine doctor Basharin's definition
I am active participant in Russian Wikipedia, however in English part of the Encyclopedia I have a very limited experience. Therefore I ask for assistance from English participant's of Wikipedia in the following issue:

I see the Article is a Stub and I would like to add some refreshing to it. Obviously sobriety is not only AA term and for example children are also sober and this is also sobriety, however it has no relationship to AA term of sobriety.

So, we could start from discussing Karl Basharin's definition. He has doctor degree in medicine and treats sobriety issues during almost 40 years in YSU (Yakutsk State University, Russia). However, his definition is in Russian. I didn't manage to find any translation.

However, first question is: Could we give a reference to his paper in Russian? Front315 (talk) 20:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Being Sober and Social
I have read the article and feel that it is pretty informative. I see that the author has focused on the field sobriety tests that are given when someone is suspected of a DWI. He also touched on the 12-step program of AA. I would like make a couple of suggestions related to sobriety. If the article were to contain certain testimonials from people trying to bring in sobriety with their day to day social circle, this would give starters real confidence in taking this ahead and putting in practice.

http://methadone.forumotion.net/t615-thought-for-the-day-addiction-recovery-sober-socialization Check this - what people say after they quit alcohol - can we not feel the same way ?

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/3209233

Another suggestion would be to change the section from law enforcement to Field Sobriety Tests since it appears that this is the only subject touched on in this section.

I would also like to see a section on Support Systems for Alcoholics. It is difficult for people who are trying to stay sober to stay strong without a support system.

--WheelsDudley (talk) 14:43, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Copy-Edit section
I am not sure if I am doing the copy-edit feature right so I am listing a couple of grammar errors that should be fixed. Should change the word at to for in this sentence "for consuming a drug, but at some reason does not do.... Delete one of the periods in the first sentence under Law Enforcement Delete the space between the E and nforcement in the first sentence I think the name of the test should be capitalized-Standardized Field Sobriety Tests

In the last sentence under the Law Enforcement section - I would change it to read There are many factors that can lead to an inaccurate test which include weight issues, leg problems, and fatigue.

(WheelsDudley (talk) 23:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC))

Psycholgical definition
Hello, collegues from English Wikipedia, I am very interested in studying psychology sources concerning sobriety. If someone can even simply provide links, I would be grateful. I could carry out them for articles both Russian and English. Front315 (talk) 15:38, 30 July 2011 (UTC)