Talk:Social anxiety disorder

Links/references
This regards the Overview's singling out "especially paroxetine [10]" among SSRIs used to treat SAD. I read reference [10] and couldn't see any mention of that. (But I also don't understand why [10] doesn't at least recommend further study of clonazepam and its ilk, which apparently showed a bigger effect than SSRIs but with too small a sample size.) Can those two words be taken out? Are there studies later than 2013 to reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Curioussean (talk • contribs) 00:04, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Full references needed
The article contains several Harvard-style author-date citations, which are not expanded in the bibliography or anywhere else. I have taken them out of the body of the text and converted them to footnotes, but full references still need to be supplied. The offending entries are: GrindtXX (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Bruch and Heimberg, 1994
 * Caster et al., 1999.
 * Daniels and Plomin, 1985.
 * Stemberg et al., 1995.
 * Leung et al., 1994

Many inaccuracies/mis-characterisations
The paragraph headed 'Social aspects' is problematic, especially vis-a-vis Social Anxiety Disorder; '... due to the irrational fear of these situations.'

No, the fear - of embarrassment - is not irrational; it is perfectly rational and well-founded based as it is on prior experience. SAD is at once a result of a lack of socialisation, and leads to a further lack of socialisation, and consequent inexperience of social graces, pre-disposing the sufferer to gauche conduct, and embarrassment. Nothing 'irrational' whatsoever, when your experience of socialising has been typified by embarrassment.

'... sensitivity to criticism ...'

No, sufferers are not unduly sensitive; they have merely been subjected to far more criticism than non-sufferers (see above) and are weary of criticism, not unduly sensitive. Mistaking weariness for excessive sensitivity is just dismal. What could more clearly evidence the abject lack of empathy the so-called 'caring' professions have?

'These people may feel more nervous in job interviews, dates, interactions with authority, or at work.'

Totally tautological and superfluous. Of course they're nervous; they're anxious, aren't they?

But three of very many examples in this article of how utterly clue-less the psychiatric/psychological professions actually are. We are not created equal. It is inarguable the less physically attractive are treated and judged far less favourably in social situations. Society is chronically prejudiced; a very ugly thing. It is not arguable. As a consequence, many people lead socially disadvantaged lives from birth. An objective reality the psych professions are incapable of accepting.

No-one is capable of truly understanding what they have not themselves experienced. That's the nub of the problem with psychiatry/psychology; non-sufferers prognosticating upon what they have not themselves experienced, absent any insight from having experienced a condition. Could this be why the psych professions have made such pathetically little progress over the years toward achieving a greater understanding? Their inability to acknowledge or respect the insights enunciated from the patients' perspective? 122.151.210.84 (talk) 09:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Spectrum?
can we mention that SAD is a spectrum and that people do not feel the syntoms with the same intensity? I am a bit busy now and away from my computer. I am typing on the mobile version. But as soon as I get back I'll try to find reliable sources to this —Nanami73 talk 17:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I do not support this, for the reason that from a certain view, all mental illnesses exist on a spectrum. People feel MDD symptoms at varying intensities, schizophrenia symptoms at varying intensities, ADHD symptoms at varying intensities, and so on. I do not see SAD as standing out among these as being one that should be called a spectrum disorder. Kimen8 (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I see, well, I got your point. It's not something that makes it stand out for sure. Thanks for elucidating me. —Nanami73 talk 18:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)