Talk:Socialism in New Zealand

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According to the list on International Socialist Tendency, (which I got from their web site), it is the Socialist Workers Organization which is a member, and not the ISO. I haven't altered it as I may be wrong. Secretlondon 19:37, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)


 * I think you're right - on the Socialist Worker website (specifically, at, it states that it is part of the International Socialist Tendency. Thanks for noticing - I'm a little surprised that anyone is even reading a page on obscure New Zealand political parties. :-) -- Vardion 02:30, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I've done a bit of work on the links - fitting them into the List of Trotskyist internationals and existing articles on Trotskyist parties. It needs more work, however. Secretlondon 20:42, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)

New Zealand Council of Trade Unions
There needs to be some mention of New Zealand Council of Trade Unions somewhere in the article. I don't have the time/knowledge to do it. --Midnighttonight 05:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Weasel words

 * The extent to which socialism plays a part in modern New Zealand politics depends on which definitions of socialist are used, but few mainstream politicians would describe themselves using the word "socialist".

This is the topic sentence of the section entitled, "Present status of New Zealand socialism". This sentence promises to describe the various definitions of socialism or "socialist", but I did not find any definitions in this or any other section of the article.

I did find some mentions of a clash between those using the word socialism as a label for various groups or people, and those who object that the label was misapplied. I don't come away from the article with a clear sense of the reasons either side gave in this clash for applying or rejecting the label.

I would like to know whether New Zealand is a socialist country. Please tell us readers in what way, and to what extent, New Zealand has achieved socialism; and who or what is trying to help or thwart this progress. --Uncle Ed (talk) 12:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ed: This sounds like you're interested in some form of political vigilance to keep socialism from occurring in NZ. Some countries do adapt socialism as a form of government and many of them thrive under such governance. Perhaps, if you're interested in learning more, you should refrain from demanding your POV being represented in the article and simply ask which version of socialism applies, if any, and why politicians would not want to be considered socialists. --IrrationalAtheist (talk) 16:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)