Talk:Socket 479

Still a stub
70.30.120.166: With a scant 2 paragraphs (of which one is actually about FCPGA6) and some pictures, this is a very definite stub. Please do not remove the stub tag, as it will only reduce the chances of this article getting the attention it needs. Aluvus 13:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

think your mistaken on the pictures, both are pictures of Micro-FCPGA (flip chip pin grid array) processors. the first one is a true socket 479 Pentium M - Celeron M procesor [ it's a P4 mobile cpu - processor but not the P4M cpu - processor.]. looking at the pins (which actually has only 478 pins total but one pins been relocated {from the standard P4 desktop pin layout.} it will not fit the stanard P4 desktop 478 pin socket. if you try you'll bend or break off the relocated pin). the second picture is of the standard Pentium 4 pin layout. it is also listed as a Micro-FCPGA processor. it has 478 pins but, uses the standard P4 desktop pin layout. which is also used on alot of the mobile cpu's - processors. it will fit in a socket 479 mobile socket {although not sure if it will boot or harm the processor}, because the mobile 479 socket has extra holes it makes a complete square grid. look at the piture of the Asus adapter that's a true socket 479 for the Pentium M - Celeron M. the Asus adadter allows you to use a Socket 479 cpu in certain model Asus socket 478 P4 desktop motherboards. the Intel processor spec finder page use to list Processoes by socket design pin count. ie slot 1, 370 478 479 775 ect.. now it list them by design type I guess were FCPGA - flip chip pin grid array, Micro-FCPGA _ micro - flip chip pin grid array, FCBGA -flip chip ball grid array, Micro-FCBGA _ Micro-flip chip ball grid array, just add number to the end for revisions and newer processors when a socket redisgn comes out. the only problem is both 478 and 479 processors are now only listed as Micro-FCPGA theirs nothing to identify which socket it fits (thanks for clearing that up Intel now its even more confusing.} so if you have a P4 desktop or a Pentium M cpu with a 478 Pin designed socket, and the processor dies. you go to the Intel spec finder and find all the cpu's under P4 or Pentium M find one that looks good, and is in your boards processor support range. you go out and buy it or order over the net. only to recieve a socket 479 cpu. and if you don't look at the pins before trying to install the processor, you just bent or snapped off one pin. think Intel going to reimbuse you for your loss because their lousy confusing new way of idenifing cpu's. don't hold your breath on that one. why is it that Intel always likes to make it hard to Identify which cpu you have and which one you need to replace it with? why is it Intel keep making a ton of socket revisions so fast? especially since some of the pins are dead no contact. their there just to change add to the pin count is their only fuction.look how long socket A for AMD lasted they had Processor improvements but keep the same socket design. look how long socket 939 lasted for AMD they had processor improvements even duel core processors. look how long socket 7 lasted even after Intel wrote it off with a socket redesign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.200.188 (talk) 18:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

mobile Pentium III-m
Is the mobile Pentium III-m also called Tualatin-M also on this socket or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bachmaniac (talk • contribs) September 5, 2006
 * The Mobile Pentium III-M was on Socket 370. — Aluvus  t/ c  16:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mobile tualatin socket looks exact the same as the 479 board with these one screw.

Look here: http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-p3.php and search for µFCBGA. greets

think the mobile Pentium III - M was a socket 478 design not a socket 479 design check the let's be specific addition with the link to pentium III - M, datasheet if you go to near the end I think it shows a pin layout which looks axactly like a standard P4 pin layout for socket 478.

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The article discusses briefly about what socket 479 is, then makes a statement about Asus, then continues with on with what socket 479 is. Why would Asus matter? Article has no references either. Ceros 04:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

71.59.200.188 19:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC) the Asua adapter show a picture of the true socket 479 take a second look thats not a socket 478

Let's be specific
Let us make this article about Intel's "mPGA479M" socket. The picture is of this socket type.

There may be other sockets with different names and these should have a separate page.

One confusing thing might be sockets with different names which look very similar to "mPGA479M". E.g. see the comment above about the pentium III-m which looks the same and has the same number of pins. Is this the same socket or a different one? Probably could tell by reading the datasheets and comparing measurements for distance between pins.

Looking at the Pentium M datasheet and the Pentium III-M datasheet, the spacing of the 479 contacts is the same on both, but the electrical description of the contacts is different. Are these sockets considered different or the same if the electrical specs are different? (I.e the processors can be plugged into either board but they will not work in either board with such a socket.)

mPGA479M datasheet http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/applnots/29852001.pdf

Pentium III-M datasheet ftp://download.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/pentiumiii/sb/29834006.pdf

Pentium M datasheets http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/30526202.pdf http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/30218908.pdf http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/25261203.pdf —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.2.30.165 (talk • contribs) 11:53, January 9, 2007 (UTC)

71.59.200.188 19:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC) from the looks of the data sheet link you provided the pentium III(T)- M has a standard P4 desktop pin layout for a socket 478

488 Pins, 479 Holes?
According to what I have read this cpu really has 478 pins not 479. This should be noted somewhere.

213.183.5.225 10:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Good idea. Seems the socket has 479 holes and yet the CPU has only 478 pins. No wonder why there is so much confusion. I put it in the text. 71.59.200.188 18:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC) yes the Pentium M socket 479 processor only has 478 pins. its has only one pin that has been relocated. the pin located at B 2 has been moved to location B 1 were their was no pin before. if you leave the previous hole in the socket and add one for the relocated pin you now have a 479 pin socket. a 479 processor will not fit in a socket 478(even though it only has 478 pins actually} because of the recolated pin if you try it will bend or snapp off the pin. yet a 478 processor will fit in a socket 479 because the relocated pins hole was left in the socket{not sure if it will boot and don't want to try.}

theirs only one problem the data sheet for the socket 479 also shows pin layouts for scocket 478 in it. the same for the pemtium M cpu page. Intel did a good job of messing stuff up. but I've had three intel based laptops. all of which were mobile cpu's although some laptop have cpu's with the standard p-4 desktop pin layout in a stanard p-4 desktop style mobile socket their also installed in rewired socket 479's. a pentium mobile cpu can be socket 478 or 479 style only difference is a pin has been relocated. along time ago itel listed the pentium mobiles as either socket 478 or 479 style because they came in both now they've been listing them as Micro-FCPGA for both although resently seen a few listed as 478. Intel really needs to clean this mess up make it easier to find out what cpu you have. quit making so many socket changes. and quit confusing everybody by adding to the confusion. like now their adding a socket 479 for mobile dual core processors. more confusion thanks intel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.200.188 (talk) 03:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Core doesn't go in this socket. And I doubt the PIII-M used the same socket as the P-M
Core doesn't go in this socket, yet on the right column it's listed as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.104.76 (talk) 04:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

478/479 cpu pictures
There are pictures of both 478 and 479 processors, but it is not clearly labeled as to which is 478 and 9.

Can anyone identify them? I am in the process of finding this info myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.183.231 (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I took the time to manually count the holes of the socket currently displayed in the article:
 * Intel Socket 479 - closed-top PNr°0330.jpg
 * Mind you, it has only 478 holes. Either the information in the article is wrong ("Contacts: 479 on the socket") or the image shows the wrong socket. 92.74.122.37 (talk) 17:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Reading the specs I gleaned that the picture is not showing the correct socket. Changed picture accordingly (127.0.0.1) (talk) 19:55, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Server socket 479
There's a suspicious number of Tyan and Supermicro motherboards out there with two socket 479s for dual-Xeon setups. Somehow, I don't think this is the same Socket 479 that was used for the Pentium-M. Ca we get some clarification on this?