Talk:Sofia Gubaidulina

Is she Muslim?
Her father was a mullah in Tatarstan, but she seems to associate freely with the Russian Orthodox faith.

Anyone knows what her religious affiliation is? Just curious to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.111.66.214 (talk) 07:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

By her own admition she is practicing Orthodox christian - see В. Холопова. София Губайдулина. Путеводитель по произведениям. М., 2001. С. 3-4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.165.173.131 (talk) 18:10, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Her name

 * What is the source for the new spellings of her name? Hyacinth 17:33, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have moved the page back to "Sofia Gubaidulina". For one, it is the spelling used in the vast majority of recordings as well as in the scores of her works released in English-speaking countries. It is the spelling used in Kurtz' biography, which seems to be authorised. Finally, it is a pretty direct transliteration from the Russian. The spelling that appeared here appears to have been from the Tatar, but see how Gubaidulina herself spelled her name. She used a Russified version in her professional life in Russia, not anything from the Tatar. Crculver 18:12, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * OK! --Untifler 17:24, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Officially, Tatar language uses cyrillic script - probably it would be sensible to transliterate her name in Tatar or put it in both alphabets? Dormidondt


 * I recently read an interview that stated that Gubaidulina's father was Russian-speaking by choice from before Sofia Asgatovna was born. So, there's no real reason for the Tatar name here, because her parents did not actually use it. I will remove it if there are no objections. Crculver 02:18, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * There are objections. As she was borned in Tatar ASSR she has a passport where her Tatar name was written in Tatar, the second state language. Even through ethnically Russians living/lived in Tatarstan has a Tatar spelling of their names, differ than in Russian, it should be given. If even she doesn't used her name's Tatar variant anywhere, there are a lot of publications in Tatar about she, and there her name is written in Tatar :) So, I think, the presence of her Tatar name have less objections than its absence. --Üñţïf̣ļëŗ ( see also: ә? Ә!) 18:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Qualitative statement of subject's notability?
I wonder whether this article is 'too neutral.' Subject is one of the most performed and most awarded living composers in the world; I think the article could use a qualitative statement to that effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.251.127 (talk) 05:54, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem with a "qualitative statement" like that is that someone is likely to challenge its truth, not to mention the vagueness. Does "one of" mean "in the top five", "in the top fifty", or "in the top five hundred"? If the last, is this really a very significant accomplishment? How do you measure "awardedness" when it comes to composers? If we were talking about a military officer, we could count up the medals, but composers' awards range from the monumental (Grawemeyer Award, Pulitzer Prize, Polar Prize, etc.) to the nearly trivial. As to performances, that could be difficult to verify as well. Even assuming access to her publisher's database, it would be necessary to compile data on a reasonable number of other living composers to see how she compares. The simple solution to this problem would be to find a published, reliable source that says "Sofia Gubaidulina is one of the most performed and most awarded living composers in the world". Then there is no controversy: it is an opinion that can be attributed to a responsible authority.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * How do you measure or determine the reliability or responsibility of a source? Do we need a reliable and responsible source to verify that?  Abstrator (talk) 15:32, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:RS. Toccata quarta (talk) 18:58, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * She has been given quite a number of awards, maybe more than any other (living) composer? Awards could be listed? About most performed, I don't know.Marlindale (talk) 04:06, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Ancestry
Her father was Tatar, her mother ethnically Russian, so it seems not clear to call her Tatar? Marlindale (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've changed it back: it was a controversial edit made without any references. We will need something more substantial to make such a change. 2A00:23C4:A683:6A00:58E7:D45B:34A3:C2E2 (talk) 14:16, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

It seems to me neither "Russian" nor "Tatar" is satisfying. I don't think it's good to call her either one. What about "of Tatar and Russian ancestry"? Marlindale (talk) 17:14, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

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Infobox
Would any one object to an infobox? I'll wait a week before adding one to allow people's thoughts. — Iadmc  ♫ talk  03:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * OK. It's not a week yet but no-one has come forward at all. wp:BRD I'll put the box in! Revert/discuss as you wish — Iadmc  ♫ talk  00:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I removed the box here then to not confuse the inclusion count. See Leighton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)