Talk:Sofia Kenin

Nationality and Lead
Many users keep inserting "Russian-born" into the lead. This is directly against Wikipedia rules for biography leads (Per MOS:Ethnicity which verbatim states, "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if the person is notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable. Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." The subject's notability occurred in the United States, as solely a U.S. citizen, representing the USA in tennis. Her birth in Russia has no justifiable position in the lead as she has neither represented Russia, nor even retains Russian nationality (see source here from NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/sports/sofia-kenin-amanda-anisimova.html). Apoorva Iyer (talk) 21:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree that it's against MOS:ETHNICITY. Also for what it's worth, her parents had moved to the United States long before she was born. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 21:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Sofia Kenin nickname placement
There seems to be some issues with nickname placement in this article. Per MOS:NICKNAME it is appropriate to put the nickname in the lead when they are best known for the nickname, or it is an alias. Has this been established for Sophia Kenin? I just keep hearing Sophia on tv. We certainly don't put it mid-name in the lead unless the article is titled under the nickname, but where best should it go? To me it seems like unless it is used as often or more often than Sophia, it should be kept in the "Early life and background" section of the article. Thoughts? Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * As I was writing in the edit summary when this went up: MOS:NICKNAME covers cases like Magic Johnson where someone is best known by a nickname, and also cases where someone is commonly known by multiple names such as Genghis Khan, Emory Sparrow, and Joey Aiuppa (those are the examples on the page). Kenin falls in that second group, as she goes by either name. Her own website is sonyakenin.com, and she generally introduces herself as "Sonya Kenin" (see this video for instance). Sportsfan77777 (talk) 02:41, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Then it should be done differently with no pronunciation needed (especially for a nickname). Twitter and Instagram use Sofia and her own website has her first name as Sophia so I'm not convinced. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)